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    Hardware Review: Inelmatic XF700 Industrial Sunlight Readable Touch Screen Monitor

    What is it?

    The Inelmatic XF700 is a 7” 16:9 high-brightness touch-screen monitor. This monitor has multiple output options, transflective technologies, and a unique and optimized form-factor.

    The Verdict:


    The Inelmatic XF700 is a well thought-out piece of automotive computing hardware. From the screen to the shell you can tell Inelmatic designed it for Car PC use. If it can survive the name-recognition of competing devices, I truly believe there is a new “best of class” in the 7” touch-screen market.

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    What’s in the box?


    The XF700 comes with an instruction manual, VESA mount, an attachable stylus pointer, and a unique single-loom wire which includes connectors for power, USB, VGA input, composite input, S-Video input, rear camera input, and a current-sensing auto-switch wire.

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    The XF700 is the latest of the high-brightness touch-friendly monitors to hit the mobile computer scene. Upon opening the box and getting the monitor in my hands, I immediately noticed how solid the monitor feels. This indicates to me that the build quality should be stellar and that the XF700 could potentially be built to withstand the harsh automotive environments. Another improvement that immediately stood out is the single-wire design. There is only a single wire protruding from the back of the XF700. The wire is flexible, and sticks out of the rear of the unit, allowing for greater installation flexibility than most competitors offer. This wire then latches securely to its counterpart, which allows an array of connection methods. The XF700 offers VGA inputs, 2 sets of composite video inputs, 1 set of audio inputs, a separate rear camera input, and for even greater flexibility the manufacturer has included a single wire current-sensing switch wire. In fact, the only connection method that seems to be missing is DVI. Powering the device is more flexible than its competition as well, as the XF700 allows any power source from 9-30VDC. This removes the requirement of a stable 12v source.



    Of course, the most important feature of any touch-screen monitor is what’s on the screen, and XF700 shines through in this regard. The touch-screen is transflective and appears to shy away dust and fingerprints better than competing units. Installation of the touch-screen is plug-and-play, and the software which controls the touch-screen is the same as the Lilliput and Xenarc units. The high-brightness of the LCD provides a crisp and beautiful display even in direct sunlight. The 629 Lilliput in my car couldn’t come close to matching the brightness and image quality of the XF700.


    Even my “sunlight readable” Acer laptop doesn’t match the quality of the XF700 in the brightest conditions.


    The native resolution of the XF700 is 800x480, however it seems to handle 800x600 and even 1024x768 without much hassle. The display quality is the best I’ve seen to date within the 7” monitor market.


    The XF700 has several buttons on the front, which at first detract from the beauty of its design. However, I find the buttons work better in the car than those of the Lilliput and Xernarc devices. They sit flush on the frame of the monitor, and provide a very tactile “click” each time a button is pressed. The buttons do things like power the display, toggle the built-in 3-step gamma, and open up the on-screen menu. This menu allows far more customization than competing units.

    The Positive:


    • High-quality beautiful display even in direct sunlight
    • Installation-friendly wiring
    • Built-in rear camera support, with multiple auto-switch options
    • Easy to use 3 stage gamma
    • 500:1 contrast ratio
    • Native resolution of 800x480 • Auto-power on when VGA signal is detected
    • Flexible wiring options
    • Shock and vibration resistant for reliable car installations

    The Negative:


    • No DVI input
    • Still has the bright blue “No VGA” screen at upon powering the device
    • No remote control?

    The Verdict:


    The Inelmatic XF700 is a well thought-out piece of automotive computing hardware. From the screen to the shell you can tell Inelmatic designed it for Car PC use. If it can survive the name-recognition of competing devices, I truly believe there is a new “best of class” in the 7” touch-screen market.

    Specifications:

    Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Colors: 256k Native Resolution: 800x480px VGA Modes: 640x480 to 1024x768 Contrast: 500:1 Inputs: VGA, 2 x Composite Video Optional Audio: 2 x 1W (stereo) Touch Panel: Resistive 4 wires. Endurance >2M Touch. Optional 5 wires Power Supply: 9-30VDC automotive car/truck suitable Power Consumption: 6W Dimensions: 183x125x31mm Dimensions (screen): 152x94mm Enclosure: Aluminum chassis/rear. PVC-ABS front Operation Temperature: -20°C to 70°C Max (-10°C to 60°C continuous) Vibrations: 1G 2-500Hz Shock: 20G 11ms Drop: 10cm Max

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    Thanks for the review. It's nice and exciting to see a new monitor such as this hit the carpc market. Very pricey in the store, but I think I would shell out extra and take this over the Lilliput transflective.

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    it really is built better i mean that was the very first thing i noticed. Very Very solid
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    The one problem I see is the glare. I'm guessing that means the touchscreen is not optically bonded.

    For $949 it should be.

    IMO this makes the Mo-Co-So a much better deal still. The Mo-Co-So is optically bonded , transflective, has AG and is $350 cheaper.

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    So those buttons on the front are capacitive?
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    no.. they click. They just appear flush mounted
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    I've had some discussion with someone from the company who manufactures the XF700 in regards to whether or not its optically bonded. Here is some of the information that need be clarified.

    This monitor is optically bonded, plus it's re-workable, it means, if the touch fails, can be replaced.

    It's not possible to avoid the glare 100%, but it can be reduced. Using AG coating is one way, but it makes the real contrast very low under strong light. If you compare Mo-Co-So to this monitor side by side, you would see the difference. Mo-Co-So will turn all like purple, while this new one keeps readable in the same light conditions.

    Glare VS AG can be discussed, depending of the application, AG or Glare is better choice.
    For example, avionics and high grade applications are using always Glare finish, AG isn't allowed because of the real contrast issue.
    Generally, glare is becoming more popular the last years, because the dark keeps dark, the effect is like a better color depth, not washed out.

    There is something is weird in Mo-Co-So monitors, if you have a transflective monitor with AG finish, the transflective effect is no longer useful, the diffuse reflection of the AG layer is higher than the reflected image brightness, so it's useless. I think transflective has became a commercial word to easy sell better quality monitors, but many are not really transflective.

    Besides, Mo-Co-So uses lilliput as base to enhance (chassis, electronics...), it's different level, plus the XF700 panel is over 600nits brightness at very low power consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    I've had some discussion with someone from the company who manufactures the XF700 in regards to whether or not its optically bonded. Here is some of the information that need be clarified.
    That is a fancy way of saying "Yes our monitor has more glare but it's better, believe us"

    Yes the Mo-Co-So looks "purple". When it's off and facing the sun, not when it's on.

    I would gladly trade "slightly" less deep blacks (which I don't think they are ) for being able to see the image on the screen and not the person or objects sitting next to me because of the glare.

    Plus he is lying about Avionics always using glare and not AG. The majority of screens I have seen have had AG on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hailrazer View Post
    That is a fancy way of saying "Yes our monitor has more glare but it's better, believe us"
    The text it's not saying that it has more glare, it says glare finish, maybe the right word is glossy, it means specular reflection type, not diffuse reflection like AG finish. AG layer is just a very irregular surface, designed to spread the light beam in smaller beams in several directions. Sunlight readable monitors with glare finish doesn't spread the light, it uses different technology to avoid the ambient light to disturb the viewer.

    Quote Originally Posted by hailrazer View Post
    Yes the Mo-Co-So looks "purple". When it's off and facing the sun, not when it's on.

    I would gladly trade "slightly" less deep blacks (which I don't think they are ) for being able to see the image on the screen and not the person or objects sitting next to me because of the glare.
    You are trading contrast, it shows you know nothing about optics.
    Please show us pictures with the monitor facing the sun and powered on. You can use a pattern with white/black bars, then we will see what's white and what's black.
    I checked mo-co-so website and measure two of their pictures, it showed less than 2:1 contrast , no readable at all, and it's using their photos, surely favorable for their products.

    Why you think a sunlight readable monitor like XF700 will show the person or objects next? Maybe you haven't seen a real sunlight readable monitor working for real before. If the light over those objects is so strong that makes a visible reflection in a sunlight readable monitor, it will also show in mo-co-so monitor, but instead clear reflection it will make a diffuse reflection loosing the contrast over the whole image.

    Quote Originally Posted by hailrazer View Post
    Plus he is lying about Avionics always using glare and not AG. The majority of screens I have seen have had AG on them.
    Please you get informed before say who is lying, Avionics means the cockpit, almost military grade monitors, not the cheap monitors for the passenger entertainment that you have seen... those ones use AG and even recycled TFT panels.

    Don't get me wrong, the type of finish like mo-co-so uses is useful in some cases, but not sunlight readable at all.

    Now you can try to guess why the other transflective model in mp3car store is also glare finish.
    There isn't any monitor under 1200nits with AG finish that can be fully sunlight readable, it can reach daylight readable, but it's different to be sunlight readable to daylight only. Btw, how bright are mo-co-so screens? This XF700 is 600nits plus transflective.

    I think you haven't tried mo-co-so screen in real high ambient light application. Outdoor applications like marine, where the strong light is coming from several angles, AG (diffuse finish) will reduce dramatically the contrast, making the image unreadable.

    You can try to play a bit with the optics, you will enjoy learning. If you use glasses, put the fingers over one of the glasses until you make it all dirty, you just got a DIY AG coating. Then face them to a light source like the sun or a lamp. Now try to look thru them, and tell us which one you can see better.

    Nowadays, there are some nano-size AG coatings, but even so small they are still reducing the contrast, and worse, it also spread the image beam coming from the TFT, losing picture definition, so the glare finish is better for high grade monitors. Don't tell me the one in your home uses AG, high grade doesn't mean U$800 TV.

    Not eveything is good about glare finish, in touch monitors, the glare finish has a problem, it's the fingerprints. To avoid the dirty to get stick and in the same time easier to be cleaned, there are some kind of anti-fingerprint layer added to the good glare monitors.
    Keep clean a sunlight readable monitor is important, the fingerprints will become like an AG layer, spreading the light and losing readability.

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    LOL at that entire posts.

    Look I have no doubt you monitor is a high quality monitor worth a lot of money. And I bet the picture is terrific.

    But the simple fact is the pics in the first post show the truth. A lot of glare that is unacceptable. The Mo-Co-So has none of that glare. You can't see the reflection of everything around you with the Mo-Co-So.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samse View Post
    Why you think a sunlight readable monitor like XF700 will show the person or objects next?
    Why do I think that? Simple , look at the pic. You can clearly see the hand holding the camera. This is a mirror like reflection. It is typical of a non optically bonded touchscreen with no AG.



    Sunlight readable is fine, glare is not acceptable. I will gladly trade the slight contrast loss of AG for no glare.

    See this is a car environment. Having a sunlight readable monitor means nothing if all you will see is the woman sitting in the passenger seat with her bright blonde hair. You need to have no reflection when the sun is shining in the car through the front and side windows. That is when you get reflection and glare with a non optically bonded non AG coated touchscreen.

    You can tell me all you want that your screen doesn't do this but the pics don't lie.



    And I have 4 HD T.V's in my house that costs over $2000 each and they ALL have AG. And the screen in my Yukon is an Avionics screen and guess what...yep AG.

    I'm sure your monitor is great, I just don't want glare and reflection. That's all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Samse View Post
    Don't get me wrong, the type of finish like mo-co-so uses is useful in some cases, but not sunlight readable at all.
    Please, maybe you haven't used a Mo-Co-So ? It is VERY sunlight readable, more so than most that claim it.

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