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    Whenever these are data packets being sent across airwaves/landlines you will always have to deal with hackers.

    phone, net and associated routers, bluetooth, ATMs << have fun!

    FUD always occurs with new technology especially when the technology is so advanced that people have no real clue of what is going on.

    Don't worry, your TV is going to be next

    What OS does onstar run on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by btilford View Post
    Not really a "hacker" as a mad ex employee though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chronoglass View Post
    Not really a "hacker" as a mad ex employee though.
    No skills needed these days to get a title
    how many pages of smileys did you go through to find that? lol

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    Cars, internet and hackers

    Onstar is basically a microprocessor with custom software connected to the car's OBDII computer using satellite and cellphone technology. Each car has a phone number, EIN and IP address. It is no more sophisicated than a pc with the same configuration. Because Onstar uses the same computer system in all vehicles, it would, in theory, be easier to hack into an onstar equiped car than one with a PC.

    As with any new technology, the media has to blow everything out of porporation. Can a car be hacked? Yes it can and probably will, however, it is no cause for alarm.

    Just my 2 cents worth.
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    So someone from across the world can disable your brakes or activate your airbags at any time...and thats not a cause for alarm?

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    No Cause for alarm

    First, I have been in technology since the mid 80's. My father repaired televisions since the early 60's. Both of us experienced, in our respective fields, the 'fear of the technology.' Between the media taking the ball and the religious fanatics preaching gloom and doom the general public doesn't know what to believe.

    Is it possible for someone with intent to do harm to take control of a car via the internet and do damage? Yes it is possible, but if that were the case, then why do you take the time with this hobby? Why do you do your banking online? Why do you have a cable (or satellite) box in your bedroom connected to your television? Why do you use a cellphone on a regular basis instead of a land line phone? The answer is the risks are worth the rewards (or conviences).

    I say no cause for alarm because I take the appropriate safeguards. If you are on this forum then you have an above interest in the use of technology to better your (and hopefully other's) lives. You find value in carputers and the other gadgets that exist in our lives every day.

    So again, I say 'no big deal' in the sence this technology, with the necessary safeguards, is worth the risk.

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    hmmm, this could be bad news for the OBD tap-ins ...

    lolo, you really only need to hack into the core central servers of OnStar

    Reality though is that cars are going to be more and more dependent on central servers.

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    As long as the Hackers are better drivers than most the dopes on the road, how can this be a bad thing?
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    To quote the sage....Show me the money! Most hacking these days has a monetary component. The desire to do possibly fatal harm to anonymous strangers probably not so much. Prove the hack, then blackmail the manufacturer for the fix. Nothing is ever made public as long as the payoff is made.

    Hmmm, might make a pretty good Ridley Scott thriller....

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    Nice headlines, good ratings, not a concern.

    If someone wants to disable your breaks, they can hire a homeless guy or a drug addict to crawl under your car and cut the brake lines. Want to keep a car from starting? Stab the gas tank with a screwdriver.

    There are always holes in the system, whether they are high tech or low tech.

    Always remember, the human factor is the worst problem in the system.

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