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    It may look like an HTC phone, but that's like comparing a Hyundai to a Lexus. Yeah they look the same because the koreans ripped off the design, but really that's about where it ends. Buy a T8585 on Tmoblile i you dont like AT&T, or do like me and buy the T9193 for the AT&T network and get the best reception in town, or wait and by the EVO (model # unknown to me). Keep in mind the T8585 and T9193 both have windows mobile with HTC Sense whereas on Sprint, they decided to take that away and put Android I believe.

    I am a HTC/WinMO whore and proud of it...

    EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention... All 3 versions are capable of dual booting Android/Windows mobile on the fly, however I believe it is easier to dual boot the winmo versions than the android version. I can't believe the day where dual booting operating systems on your phone is a reality... Yippee!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    It may look like an HTC phone, but that's like comparing a Hyundai to a Lexus. Yeah they look the same because the koreans ripped off the design, but really that's about where it ends. Buy a T8585 on Tmoblile i you dont like AT&T, or do like me and buy the T9193 for the AT&T network and get the best reception in town, or wait and by the EVO (model # unknown to me). Keep in mind the T8585 and T9193 both have windows mobile with HTC Sense whereas on Sprint, they decided to take that away and put Android I believe.

    I am a HTC/WinMO whore and proud of it...

    EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention... All 3 versions are capable of dual booting Android/Windows mobile on the fly, however I believe it is easier to dual boot the winmo versions than the android version. I can't believe the day where dual booting operating systems on your phone is a reality... Yippee!!
    Originally I was a WinMo whore too, but WinMo is not keeping up. Both iOS and Android are so far ahead. I know WinMo is about to hit version 7, but something tells me the redesign and rebuild and addition of the WinMo Marketplace, still may not be as good. Since I have bought cell phones, they have always been HTC and will continue to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZX1Cruizer View Post
    Originally I was a WinMo whore too, but WinMo is not keeping up. Both iOS and Android are so far ahead. I know WinMo is about to hit version 7, but something tells me the redesign and rebuild and addition of the WinMo Marketplace, still may not be as good. Since I have bought cell phones, they have always been HTC and will continue to be.
    Living in a house with an iphone sheep, I have used iOS a fair amount and am not impressed. I'll be the first to admit I have a rather large bias, but really I do not get the hype. There is a store that lets you spend your money on useless things... Yay?! All my programs are free or I can write myself in any C/C++/C#/VB/Whatever language. And <cough> flash </cough>

    A few of my friends have Android. Android v1, was meh. Version 2 is pretty cool, and I would use it. But HTC Sense ontop of WinMO coupled with knowing the OS like the back of my hand makes it a winner. And if I ever decide to change, the phone is capable of running "Windows Phone 7" (great name ), WinMo 6.5 like now, Android, or a full blown linux OS if compiled for the snapdragon since the SD card is on a main system IO bus making it just like internal memory and bootable. It is actually the default way for ROM upgrades in other countries. The carrier mails a locked SD card you insert, it boots into the bootloader and upgrades the ROM.

    Why do you need windows marketplace? I just open google, type in what I want, and download a cab file generally for free. Seems to have worked well (and faster every year) since 2002-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1Toaster View Post
    Living in a house with an iphone sheep, I have used iOS a fair amount and am not impressed. I'll be the first to admit I have a rather large bias, but really I do not get the hype. There is a store that lets you spend your money on useless things... Yay?! All my programs are free or I can write myself in any C/C++/C#/VB/Whatever language. And <cough> flash </cough>

    A few of my friends have Android. Android v1, was meh. Version 2 is pretty cool, and I would use it. But HTC Sense ontop of WinMO coupled with knowing the OS like the back of my hand makes it a winner. And if I ever decide to change, the phone is capable of running "Windows Phone 7" (great name ), WinMo 6.5 like now, Android, or a full blown linux OS if compiled for the snapdragon since the SD card is on a main system IO bus making it just like internal memory and bootable. It is actually the default way for ROM upgrades in other countries. The carrier mails a locked SD card you insert, it boots into the bootloader and upgrades the ROM.

    Why do you need windows marketplace? I just open google, type in what I want, and download a cab file generally for free. Seems to have worked well (and faster every year) since 2002-ish.
    All good points...... I too know WinMo like the back of my hand but sometimes it gets very glitchy. I have to reset my phone so many times a week. I rarely here any of that about the other too. I guess there are so many pros and cons. Also I think a Marketplace would be awesome..... It works great with Zune, it works great with Xbox Live, so I think it will be a great feature for WinPh7. We wouldnt have to search all over the place. Also because Microsoft would screen all the apps, all will work. I dont know how many times I have downloaded an app on this phone and it gets buggy and messes up my phone.
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    What ROM are you running? You have a HTC now right? Is it a carrier branded ROM? Those are generally glitchy. One of the first things I do is go direct to HTC and download their newest OEM ROM. HTC made the phone, so I trust them more than the idiots at the carrier programming department who just want to shove "features" with bad coding in there.

    My T7272 (Touch Pro with the full number pad and dual video cameras and more that could not be bought in the US) needed resetting once in a blue moon. My T9193 (Like the HD2/T8585 but with the 850Mhz 3G/4G data band also cannot be bought in the US <anger />) froze the second day I had it because of the Telstra bloatware on it. Flashed with the HTC ROM and it has been stable since. However I am keen to try out a few of the custom ROMs on xda-devs just because...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinehead View Post
    Latest report from Engadget:

    Apple: iPhone 4 reception problem is a software issue, fix coming in 'a few weeks'

    Upon investigation, we were stunned to find that the formula we use to calculate how many bars of signal strength to display is totally wrong. Our formula, in many instances, mistakenly displays 2 more bars than it should for a given signal strength. For example, we sometimes display 4 bars when we should be displaying as few as 2 bars. Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they don't know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place.

    To fix this, we are adopting AT&T's recently recommended formula for calculating how many bars to display for a given signal strength. The real signal strength remains the same, but the iPhone's bars will report it far more accurately, providing users a much better indication of the reception they will get in a given area. We are also making bars 1, 2 and 3 a bit taller so they will be easier to see.

    We will issue a free software update within a few weeks that incorporates the corrected formula. Since this mistake has been present since the original iPhone, this software update will also be available for the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3G.
    What's troubling is that this is the second time Apple has blamed signal strengh / reception issues on software and it doesn't fully explain calls dropping and data degradation when the iPhone 4 is held in a very particular (but common) way. It's also worth noting that Apple, in no way admits to an antenna design flaw. Read the full press release after the break.
    BULLL **** Apple!!!!! Dozens of tests show it actually is the reception dropping... calls lost...webopages stop loading etc

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    Yes. But now when the call drops, they can say "look! your reception is bad, which is why the call drops" where before it was "look my reception's good, but the call drops anyway"

    All y'all that jumped the apple bandwagon for this new release got a nonfunctional device, and apple are refusing to help you in any way, even with a free 25 cent piece of plastic.

    I don't know why this is so difficult for people: It's defective. Take the f**king thing back. Don't cry on your blog, don't just go to engadget and kvetch, they're apple fanboys just like everyone else. Go get your money back. The fact that you aren't taking it back is just validating to apple that it's not a real problem.

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    +1 - take it back and get your money back. They are certain to refund your money. They can't make them fast enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machinehead View Post

    Apple: iPhone 4 reception problem is a software issue, fix coming in 'a few weeks'
    I thought it was blatantly obvious this was a hardware issue, and the fix was insulating the antennas (a hardware fix).
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    Well I got mine in. The screen is freaking unbelievable. Best I've seen.

    720p videos are gorgeous. No artifacts, and capture action very well.

    The phone is fast as hell. Unbelievable.

    I have no issues when at home or at work (the bars drop, but not the call). But today, at the park, I lost signal completely. As the latest gizmodo article explains, when the signal is weak, the grip can take your signal down -20dB.

    So I don't know yet what to do. I generally don't use cases with my phones, I bought some transparent think skin protection for the screen, back and sides at Amazon, and I'll see the results. If it still bad, I'll return it (got 30 days).

    I don't see any other phone at AT&T (the others suck where I live) that could give me anything closer. I heard android does not have gyroscope and cool stuff like that? Are they as fast as the iPhone 4? (The iPhone4 is unbelievably fast, as much as the iPad). I'd like an Android with similar features, even if the screen is not quite there, but maybe I'll give this ip4 to my wife and buy a Windows phone later...

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