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    I just noticed in this link, there claiming 3 second boot times.... ???? I'm guessing there talking about standby??? any info there?

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    eh, there are many dependents. Could be after post to desktop, standby or even after post from hibernation. If you are using a slimmed down version of XP (of course) either using nLite or a TinyXP install...

    I installed TinyXP Rev 05 on a VMWare machine in under 4 minutes, I dont see 3-5 second boot times being out of the question.

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    yeah, but these things come preloaded & set to go, sure you could nlite or tiny xp or even build your own xp embeded image, but that's not what there saying really....

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    Right, but RedGTiVR6 did post on the forums that he has this thing booting @ 4 seconds right now.

    Edit: If they ship with that kind of boot time, there is no need to nLite your install.

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    He who? I'm a she...and I never stated that I had it booting in 4 seconds...others from within the company have stated that they have it booting in 4 seconds (namely StreetDeck Ace).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    He who? I'm a she...and I never stated that I had it booting in 4 seconds...others from within the company have stated that they have it booting in 4 seconds (namely StreetDeck Ace).
    Eh, sorry about that. I didn't know... It's just uncommon to see a she around here. :P My mistake.

    Yea, after looking back, it was StreetDeck Ace that said he was down to 4 seconds. At least I was on the right track, somebody said it.

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    The G4 is setup so that it goes to sleep when shutting down. If it detects your car battery is low or 72 hours have passed since your last boot, it will automatically go into hibernate mode. This effectively gives it a sub 4 second boot time and makes it seem as your computer is on almost instantly.

    The operating system will be partially locked down and optimized for in car use. What exactly this means is dependant on what we find ends up being practical in the real world through testing between now and when we launch. We are playing with variants of HORM, and read-only system drives, but there are still many issues to resolve with them before we can confirm what will be in the G4. Our goals are extremely quick hibernate resume, stability, restorability, and ease of use so you can plug in any StreetDeck certified hardware and it will just work without having to install a driver yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by god_of_cpu View Post
    The G4 is setup so that it goes to sleep when shutting down. If it detects your car battery is low or 72 hours have passed since your last boot, it will automatically go into hibernate mode. This effectively gives it a sub 4 second boot time and makes it seem as your computer is on almost instantly.

    The operating system will be partially locked down and optimized for in car use. What exactly this means is dependant on what we find ends up being practical in the real world through testing between now and when we launch. We are playing with variants of HORM, and read-only system drives, but there are still many issues to resolve with them before we can confirm what will be in the G4. Our goals are extremely quick hibernate resume, stability, restorability, and ease of use so you can plug in any StreetDeck certified hardware and it will just work without having to install a driver yourself.
    Quick boot times is what it's all about. That is probably my biggest pet pieve with Carputers.

    The 72 hour thing is a great feature! Will this be a customizable option? Could the customer maybe make it 24 or 48 hours instead? I think 48 hours would be the sweet spot.

    I'm not too sure about the read only system drives though. Would it be a separate drive, or just a separate partition? For a drop in solution, multiple drives/partitions may be a bit too much for the targeted market.

    HORM would cause problems for people wanting to install any other programs, or change settings. Not to mention Windows Updates, etc.

    An "optimized for cars" operating system will be nice. I personally would like to see SD perhaps become a CarPC operating system in itself, but that may be a bit too much work, I don't know because I'm not a programmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voidunknown View Post
    I'm not too sure about the read only system drives though. Would it be a separate drive, or just a separate partition? For a drop in solution, multiple drives/partitions may be a bit too much for the targeted market.
    Partition.

    HORM would cause problems for people wanting to install any other programs, or change settings. Not to mention Windows Updates, etc.
    That's understood and part of what's going on in the back ground is a solution to this.

    An "optimized for cars" operating system will be nice. I personally would like to see SD perhaps become a CarPC operating system in itself, but that may be a bit too much work, I don't know because I'm not a programmer.
    A Linux OS is already being talked about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    A Linux OS is already being talked about.
    That's kinda what I was getting at.

    Are there plans to have FM working with SD by the time this is released? I know the G4 has FM built-in, right? No FM is a real deal killer for me. I have to have it.

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