That's the thing, though. The G4 isn't being marketed or sold by mp3car as a "bare bones" unit.
It's all-inclusive, save for any USB add-ons you provide yourself.
They are installing a hard drive and RAM for you before delivery. It's very possible those are being added before it gets on the boat from Korea.
And yes, laptops and desktops still have stickers that say "warranty void if removed" or whatever. That is the manufacturer's (or reseller's) protection against you cracking the sucker open and damaging something on the inside.
Now, the same may or may not apply to desktop systems. I don't know. Whatever the case, I don't think the G4 counts as (or is being marketed as) an upgradable unit.
I'm not saying that it can't be upgraded.
I'm saying it's not being sold by mp3car's store as such. As the authorized reseller, they have every right to deny your warranty claim for opening the chassis up, even if the problem is completely unrelated to why you opened it up in the first place.
I haven't seen laptops with these stickers when there new from the OEM, & laptops can be dis & reassembled all the time without damaging anything, & is sometimes necessary for upgrades, but even without a sticker, if you rip that ribbon on the keyboard, no warranty there.
now some recyclers of laptops will put these labels on to warn of ANY opening & void the warranty, but this is done to protect themselves obviously, & is usually a much shorter term warranty to begin with... the thoughts there are get it, check it, alls good?, great, then it yours.. do what you will
my guess here is, this unit is more like that, I mean these guys are buying them, loading them up, & then selling them to make a relatively small profit on each one, if they have to eat ONE because someone screwed it up, that may negate the sale of 15 others profit wise, I don't blame them in there stance of opening it voids the warranty, on the other hand, if the unit actually is defective & they can still get credit for it, then I'm sure they would honor that...
Plus, I'd say that most everyone that is going to install this thing is already above your average idiot consumer. We're all technically savvy enough to drop in some RAM and a HD and could probably do it blind-folded. While I appreciate that mp3car.com is trying to make this seem like a consumer product, and believe me I really am glad they're trying to bring it to the masses in a plug-n-play fashion, the reality is the HD is too small, and it nomatter how you slice it, it's just a PC.
So you have over 200GB's of mp3's, and they are all on your system HDD? If I had that many mp3's, I'd have them on an external HDD anyway, if for no other reason, for loss prevention. So anyway, if you have 200GB of mp3's (holy ****, how are they encoded?? ) and that "doesn't even begin to touch any DVD movies" what HDD would you hope to upgrade to in the G4? The absolute biggest possible 2.5" drive you can get right now is 200GB (and mind you that's a 4200RPM drive... good luck). You would need a USB drive regardless.
They're encoded at 128kbps, which is fine for me. I'm not an audiophile. There's about 20,000 songs.
By years end, I bet we'll see 250GB or 300GB notebook drives. And I'm sure 500GB notebook drives are going to surface next year. My point (and everyone elses) is that [a] it's frustrating to be forced into a 40GB drive and [b] especially if there isn't an option for a larger one being offered. It's crippling.
There's already too much lacking from the G4 that needs USB too. WiFi, Network, external sound, GPS, BlueTooth, etc. USB 2.0 is fast, and can probably handle all that stuff, but the issue is _where the hell am I going to put them all_. I don't want my G4 looking like an octopus.
dude, I don't think anyones actually saying you can't put a bigger drive or ram in there, I think there more saying if you open it & screw it up, then your on your own, if the seal is cracked then someones been in there, if the unit has an issue that COULD have been caused by opening it, then, warrentee void... if you open it & don't damage anything you should be all right, but are unfortunatly increasing the chance of a warrenty item becoming an issue I guess.... I'd rip it open the first day personally
Ok, great points. We are currently happy with price of the G4 though, particularly with the current MP3Car discount, its an extremely competitive price and by in large the feedback we have recieved so far and based on our own testing the current system specs are ideal for the most people in that price range.
The current price only works for us though because the costs can be controlled offering only 1 model of G4 and limiting returns to those problems caused by factory defects. Changing the hard drive isn't something that we can do for free, nor is extending the warranty to user caused defects.
The question is how much are these services worth to you. In other words, how much would you pay to have a different hard drive installed for you not including the additional cost of the larger drive?
First let's touch on some basics. A 40GB drive is around $40 it seems and a 100GB is only $65. 160GB is just over $100 and finally a monster 200GB is about $180.
So my first thought is, for the price, it seems a 160GB drive for $60 more but FOUR TIMES the storage is an excellent price point and worth considering if the G4 should ship that as the standard configuration.
Barring that idea, I can't imagine that it would take more than an hour for a competent person to install a drive, so lets be generous and say that's $30/hour charge.
At this moment in time, a 200GB drive for yet another 40GB but a whopping $80 is not price-smart. As other's have suggested, that $80 and a Jackson could be better utilized to buy yet another external USB 160GB drive, combined with an internal G4 one is a monster 320GB! Now we're talkin' !!
Honestly, it's not about the money. If I'm dropping $2-large on a PC/HU/Whatever you want to pigeon-hole it as, AKA a G4, then I want it to meet my needs now and in the future, at least for a couple years. An extra $100 or $200 isn't even a consideration in my mind. It's like the "if you have to ask how much, then you can't afford it" saying. If someone's crying poverty over a couple hundred bux, then they need to be looking elsewhere. I predict that CarPCs will be hitting more mainstream in the next year or two, and we're seeing the tip of the iceberg. They're going to come with more features and more built-in hardware. That means my G4 of today is going to be obsolete sooner. HD space is going to be a deciding factor in any CarPC -- the rants and complaints in the forum make that painfully obvious I would think.
20000 songs at 128kbps 200 gb ?
A song is about 3 to 4 minutes long in average , at 128kbps thats about 3 - 4 mb , so 20000 x 3mb-4mb = 60-80 gb.
Maybe you mean around 50000 songs? Or encoded at a higher bit rate.