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    you know, I've been putting pc's in my cars for way longer than most here, & I can really tell you that I do it mainly because of a self percieved necessity, I mean I can't buy what I want, so I have to build it, & yeah, I do enjoy the challenge of the build too, BUT,

    I do think that I would buy one of these & use it, I mean, why not? this is exactly what I have always wanted but couldn't have, I don't see why this unit is bashed so much as being bad cause it's no fun, & that this unit is targeted at non techie morons, I just don't agree... the main thing keeping me from poping one of these in one of my dashes is the non sunlight viewable screen, so until then I will still need to hack & chop, but give me something like this & I would use something like this,

    maybe I'm thinking this though cause I have several cars & I want a pc in each of them & the time it would take for all being totally custom installs is a limiting factor too, I mean I don't think I'd use this in a car that I was totally building anyway, but for a back & forth nothing special car, this sure beats having to prop a tablet up in the passengers seat

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbocad6 View Post
    you know, I've been putting pc's in my cars for way longer than most here, & I can really tell you that I do it mainly because of a self percieved necessity, I mean I can't buy what I want, so I have to build it, & yeah, I do enjoy the challenge of the build too, BUT,

    I do think that I would buy one of these & use it, I mean, why not? this is exactly what I have always wanted but couldn't have, I don't see why this unit is bashed so much as being bad cause it's no fun, & that this unit is targeted at non techie morons, I just don't agree... the main thing keeping me from poping one of these in one of my dashes is the non sunlight viewable screen, so until then I will still need to hack & chop, but give me something like this & I would use something like this,

    maybe I'm thinking this though cause I have several cars & I want a pc in each of them & the time it would take for all being totally custom installs is a limiting factor too, I mean I don't think I'd use this in a car that I was totally building anyway, but for a back & forth nothing special car, this sure beats having to prop a tablet up in the passengers seat
    I agree. The G4 was certainly made to allow people who wouldn't of been able to install or use a car pc before, but I think it makes the otherwised seasoned computer geeks job just that much easier and lets the focus be on getting all the not so trivial features working. I have installed 5 different car pcs in my current car and I have access to install pretty much anything in the MP3Car inventory and I now have a G4 installed and don't regret the decision at all. I certainly lost something in the switch, its not as fast as the dual core pentium I removed and it doesn't look stock anymore given my willow interior, but when I get in my car, those things never even cross my mind, all I think about is the little things I regained. Like the virtually instant boot time, the AM/FM radio that actually works, and the fact I could now remove my headunit and not have to worry about installing another amp. I was never able to get any of my previous car PCs to reliably use standby, although its probably possible with something other then the G4, the thing about it is, the trivial things that you would expect any $100 head unit to do just work out of the box with it.

    I am a tinkerer and the G4 certainly takes away alot of the work that I use do to get things to work before, but really I don't miss that at all. I want to waste my time on pursuing the wow features, not the run of the mill, just get me back to what I'm going to lose features. To me theres little acomplishment in just getting a darned AM/FM radio working in your car or just getting your car computer to turn on as fast as the head unit its replacing. The only people who can possibly apperciate how incredibly difficult doing some of these otherwise ordinary things on a PC are members of this forum. These things are stupid hard just to get working right with a traditional car pc and all for what, just to match the trivial capabilities of an off the shelf head unit. The real value to me in the G4 is that I can now tell other people about how cool carputers are and then when I actually get in my car and show them it, theres not that awkward minute or so of it booting up or the explainations of how I don't have AM/FM radio, now its just, see it works just like the head unit I removed, now watch as I show you all the things it can above and beyond anything you've seen in a stock unit before.
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    I agree too.

    Gone is the day of my custom molding job. I have not looked back from getting the G4 at all. Now it is time to make some tricky software and doing some cool things.

    The only problem i have with the G4 is the standby thing.. Im using centrafuse and i think that is the reason it will not standby properly. I have to do a normal boot. It is painfull after getting spoilt from the 5 second boot in Infill Staion.

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    yeah, you'd think someone who's been working on there PC for over a year & a half, & is still saying someday it'll be finished, would appreciate the value of a real full installation in an afternoon, AND add to that, most will NEVER reach the level of hardware/software integration that this unit has out of the box...

    I don't get why most guys here think this is so bad, I've seen so many with gung-ho attitudes that this isn't a good choice & that they'd never use something like this, but then spend months & months of frustration & cutting, & eventually wind up with maybe a halfway decent cobbled system that still may have a few "issues", sometimes with ugly monstrosities shoved somewhere, often times sacrificing at least some cosmetics "for the cause" & maybe some basic functionalities too

    they claim they enjoy the challenge, or they want it to be "custom", or whatever, but have lost site of why they originally wanted a PC in the car in the first place, for the functionality, & that's where this unit really comes in

    If I can buy something for a task at hand I'll buy it rather than build it, I mean I sure wouldn't want to have to build my own drill or try to build my own DVD drive, so whys a pre configured drop in carpc that is a true computer so bad? there are still tons of custom things that can be done with a unit like this, I don't see it being nearly as limited as some suggest. on the other hand I can also fully agree with & understand that if what's currently available doesn't fit the needs then building to suit can also be the best option for some too.

    the last biggest thing I see some reject something like this is the price, & will say they can build more machine for much less, but never even consider the cost of time involved, install time, research time, fabrication time, configuring time,down time, when you look at the time involved you can then better see the real value in this unit.

    I got nothing against a custom install, & am not suggesting that anyone with a custom install shoulda done this instead, nor that this unit will really fit everyones real needs, but I do think that some of those that are so resistant actually step back & look at the whole picture, & suggest that this can be a viable option for a lot of people including techies.... this is not "taboo" or "cheating" & doesn't deserve a lot of the nose up attitude it seems to get sometimes...., sure it's not the "end all, be all" & there are some trade offs, but everything has tradeoffs... you should weigh ALL the tradeoffs though. before just looking at the negatives & dismissing this

    as a custom builder who's installed many carpc's, I would recommend anyone considering a carpc at least consider a unit like this, maybe it's not for everyone, but it's definitely not for just "Joe Average Moron." & someone who does use a unit like this is not a sellout or something

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    Question G4

    Hi All Seems to me the Middle East is popular around here ! I live in the UAE - No map for the G4 ! Currently I am using a Lilliput 7" and a laptop under the seat of my Pajero. Garmin USB GPS 18 with their nRoute software is used for navigation. If I fit a G4, will I be able to use this standard XP compatible Garmin equipmet ? Can I fit an external USB hard drive - Have lots of space behind the dash

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinlekiller View Post
    20000 songs at 128kbps 200 gb ?

    A song is about 3 to 4 minutes long in average , at 128kbps thats about 3 - 4 mb , so 20000 x 3mb-4mb = 60-80 gb.

    Maybe you mean around 50000 songs? Or encoded at a higher bit rate.
    128 sounds like crap, you loose a lot of quality.
    192 sounds a lot better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fanie View Post
    If I fit a G4, will I be able to use this standard XP compatible Garmin equipmet ? Can I fit an external USB hard drive - Have lots of space behind the dash
    You can use just about any GPS reciever. If you want to use their Navigation software, you will need to launch it as an external application in StreetDeck.

    Yes, you can use an external hard drive. It just connects via USB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockit247 View Post
    128 sounds like crap, you loose a lot of quality.
    192 sounds a lot better
    Did you read the rest of the thread? Your post is completely useless. The guy said HIS MP3'S ARE ENCODED AT 128 KBPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinlekiller View Post
    Did you read the rest of the thread? Your post is completely useless. The guy said HIS MP3'S ARE ENCODED AT 128 KBPS.
    Sorry to hear that, 128 KBPS would drive me crazy.
    If I had to listen to his music I would have to tell him to turn it off.
    Anyhow that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGTiVR6 View Post
    The G4 GPS is not USB, it's a connector on the back of the G4.

    Regarding offering a new HDD. Please understand that this would also require making an entirely new image for every size drive that is to be sold. You must consider this in the cost.

    This is not something that will be as simple as "just swap the drive". Also, as Chuck has mentioned elsewhere: Infill G4 thoughts and comments



    Now, I know that some of you have mentioned that the added cost is not an issue. I just want to be sure that it is understood that this is not something that is as eas as it may seem.

    Just thought i'd make an observation here about HD images.
    Coming from the IT world i can tell you that you can take an image of a small HD and easly put it on a larger HD. We do this all the time.
    Simple $100 software like Norton Ghost can image a drive with 10Gs of space in 15mins.

    So if imaging is your main issue for not having a larger HD. Then you don't really have any.

    I think you should offer a 120GB HD as an option and include your cost + 1 hour time spent in the swap for a reasonaly price.
    Im sure many people would gladly shell out an extra $100-$150 for an HD wiht 3x the space.

    It does afterall give a sense of future protection agaist newer products.

    I mean really 512Mb of RAM and 40GB HD...thats so old school...Those are pc specs from 5 years ago.

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