I am a tinkerer and the G4 certainly takes away alot of the work that I use do to get things to work before, but really I don't miss that at all. I want to waste my time on pursuing the wow features, not the run of the mill, just get me back to what I'm going to lose features. To me theres little acomplishment in just getting a darned AM/FM radio working in your car or just getting your car computer to turn on as fast as the head unit its replacing. The only people who can possibly apperciate how incredibly difficult doing some of these otherwise ordinary things on a PC are members of this forum. These things are stupid hard just to get working right with a traditional car pc and all for what, just to match the trivial capabilities of an off the shelf head unit. The real value to me in the G4 is that I can now tell other people about how cool carputers are and then when I actually get in my car and show them it, theres not that awkward minute or so of it booting up or the explainations of how I don't have AM/FM radio, now its just, see it works just like the head unit I removed, now watch as I show you all the things it can above and beyond anything you've seen in a stock unit before.