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    Chevrolet/Holden/Vauxhall/Opel Vectra 2003

    Yes, I know, the title sucks....

    Anyway I got a Opel Vectra 2003 and its pretty nice But it is obvious why we are here: To make a CarPC.

    Currently, the only PC related mod I have (if any, this is laughable) is a head unit with USB. Thats it :P

    Goals here:

    - Audio: This is priority number 1. In general, the Vectra has a good sound system but we are looking for more: Amps, speakers, etc....
    - Sensors: Everything from wind, speed, rainfall, forecast, etc. Lets make the car detect surroundings.
    - Wireless technology: GPS, GLONASS, Bluetooth, Wifi, Infrared, etc. If its wireless, lets put it in the car
    - Easy of access: From what you will see in the pictures, this car has 6 button on the steering wheel. I want to be able to control the car PC from these buttons. Also, voice recognition is a must.
    - Cameras: All four sides.


    Thats my starting point for now. I plan this as a 6-12 month project.

    Ill leave here some picture and see if you guys see any constrains as in wires, speaker sizes (Im worried about the small ones in the car doors), trunk (no problem there for a PC or a amp), etc.


    Here is the trunk:



    Its even better than the picture actually shows....


    The doors

    Driver:



    Copilot:



    Back left:


    Back right:


    Dashboard:



    Length of the car:



    With this cause wiring issues???

    Main panel:



    I think it is a double DIN so looks good for a touchscreen. Above there is a small GID2 display........Im thinking of replacing it as well as it pretty much says nothing; Maybe have this as the rear view camera.

    6 button steering wheel:




    If you guys need any more pictures, just ask

    Thanks

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    So will those speakers give me problems? Is wiring going to be simple?

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    Im searching for fanless prebuilt systems to know what is out there but I cant find anything really decent....

    Also, Im seeing that Im going to have to buy a small but good performance SSD just to come out fast out of hibernation and a big mechanical drive for all the music. So it has to have two drive bays which makes life even harder.

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    Ive found this (prices are placeholders)

    Inwin BL647.300TBL $68.98
    ASRock H61M-DGS $44.99
    Intel Celeron G540 $49.99

    Apotop Altair Value 4GB (2 X 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3-1600 CL11 Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory $34.99
    OR
    Pareema 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model MD313C81609L1 $31.99
    (The difference is minimal and dual channel might give me a small boost)

    ADATA Premier Pro SP600 ASP600S3-32GM-C 2.5" 32GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $46.99 (I dont know too much about SSDs so no idea on the performace of this one)
    Seagate Desktop HDD.15 ST4000DM000 4TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $179.99

    ASUS 90-YAA0E0-0UAN00Z 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Xonar Essence ST Sound Card $229.99
    OR
    Creative Sound Blaster Z Series ZXR (70SB151000000) PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card $229.99
    (AFAIK, the two best comsumer grade cards currently out there, which is VERY important to me)



    And AFAIK, besides the PSU (which again no idea) and the display (which I think Ill get later), thats what I am planning to buy for standard components. Missing are USB components such as GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, DVB-T, and DAB (excluding Fusion Brain which looks very intresting for sensor reading). Looks good?

    The case is the only thing I would really change as I might get one (it might be big though) with 1 5.25" and 1 3.5". The reason for this is because to install a antivibrating stabilzer for the HDD I need a 5.25 bay and the 3.5 can store the SSD.

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    BTW, the total is $658,93

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    Personally I would bump that up to at least an i3. I would also look at a mini-itx board instead of micro-atx, will draw less power for sure and get you down in size. I would also check the speed specs on that SSD, being that cheap I might be a slower drive. Having cards in slots in a CarPC is not a good thing as vibration/bumps will have those cards popping out on a regular basis. If you want that type of sound card look for a usb model. For music storage you might be better off using an external backup type drive since it already is designed to be moved around and should have cooling designed into the case and low power requirements. You can get a joycon ex for your steering wheel controls. For DAB I would recommend the Monkeboard DAB+ unit. Power supply I would go with DSATX over the M4, much more reliable in my opinion. Have a look at Phidgets for your sensors and controlling them, It is a very finished product. You haven't mentioned a frontend for controlling all from your screen, my recommendation there would be Driveline, it has very good support for most hardware on this forum. Screen make sure you get high brightness and 5 wire touch at least, I think the store has them for around 200. Well here is some food for thought and just my personal opinion only Good luck SNO

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    Thank you for the reply

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    Personally I would bump that up to at least an i3.
    I choose that processor because it is the cheapest for a micro-atx. I don't think I need much firepower for music, GPS and handsfree which is all I would do....

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    I would also look at a mini-itx board instead of micro-atx, will draw less power for sure and get you down in size.
    Did not know which was smaller :P Ill look at a mini-itx...


    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    I would also check the speed specs on that SSD, being that cheap I might be a slower drive.
    No idea on SSDs so Ill need some help there.

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    Having cards in slots in a CarPC is not a good thing as vibration/bumps will have those cards popping out on a regular basis. If you want that type of sound card look for a usb model.
    The problem is that USB models will have less sound quality. Sound quality is very important to me so Im not sure Im willing to give that up...Ill search anyways but any suggestions are welcomed.


    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    For music storage you might be better off using an external backup type drive since it already is designed to be moved around and should have cooling designed into the case and low power requirements.
    Ive had A LOT of problems with external cases and HDDs broken. Unless someone could recommend me one, I don't see me going back to them again....


    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    You can get a joycon ex for your steering wheel controls.
    Im not sure it is compatible with my car: Vectra C 2003. Also looks difficult to install...

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    For DAB I would recommend the Monkeboard DAB+ unit.
    Looks interesting but does it support AM radio as well? Also, as far as I see, it is USB powered. Does it come with a case?


    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    Power supply I would go with DSATX over the M4, much more reliable in my opinion.
    Thank you for the suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    Have a look at Phidgets for your sensors and controlling them, It is a very finished product.
    This seems like Fusion Brain. Should I go with this instead of Fusion Brain?

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    You haven't mentioned a frontend for controlling all from your screen, my recommendation there would be Driveline, it has very good support for most hardware on this forum.
    Well, I thought about Windows 8 with Centrafuse but that was some time ago. I mostly will use this for music, sensors, GPS and Bluetooth. Pretty much nothing else (teathering with cell also comes in handy)


    Quote Originally Posted by SNOtwistR View Post
    Screen make sure you get high brightness and 5 wire touch at least, I think the store has them for around 200. Well here is some food for thought and just my personal opinion only Good luck SNO
    Well, the screen has always been a issue to me as I wanted to get a motorized double din so I can hide it but it seems there are no decent ones. Im not sure what I am going to do in that area at all.


    Thank you for all your suggestions.

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    ECS H61H2-I3 (v1.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Mini ITX Intel Motherboard $49.99
    XION XON-720P mATX/ ITX Slim Desktop Case, USB 3.0, 5 in 1 Card-reader, 300W PSU, Black $39.99

    Case comes A LOT cheaper with mini itx....

    Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32100 $119.99

    That i3 does really come out a lot more expensive so I am not sure if the performance is really worth it between the two. If it is, i3 it is....

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    Slim Desktop Case, USB 3.0, 5 in 1 Card-reader, 300W PSU
    You don't necessarily need a desktop case with a power supply, Since it sounds like you are getting a dsatx or an m4. Have you seen other worklogs around here? A lot of people really seem to like the VoomPC cases. Others just build an enclosure to house their parts the way they would like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riahc3 View Post
    Thank you for the reply
    The problem is that USB models will have less sound quality. Sound quality is very important to me so Im not sure Im willing to give that up...Ill search anyways but any suggestions are welcomed..
    I think you are selling the USB sound card short.

    Unless you are spending a Sheeit-ton of money on the audio components and doing a proper knowledgeable install (speaker placement, sound deadening etc.) I would suggest you will be hard pressed to hear the difference from internal.

    Here's a review on one of the better "lower end cards" :

    http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...-913944/review
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