Thread: ok, I give up on setup.

Originally Posted by kazzxtrismus

ok I give up.
I havent been able to find any clear answers that dont go into telling someone to search a topic that gets 800+ possibles as an answer.

Serarching for anything results in 800 possible answers.

so here it is super simple
no variations in application wanted.

I want to do the following.

install car pc that functions as follows.

*****all power is independant of ingnition switch*****
full desktop style operation. shutdown, startup, OS, etc.
80211 b/g. (usb)
5.1 (+) audio (pci on board)
3 video outs (2 seperate images on 3 seperate screens. pci-e)
am/fm tuner
4v out to amplifiers.

- I will run this from a micro atx board with custom box and cooling.
- Gigabyte 945GZM-S2 Motherboard CPU Bundle
- Intel Pentium Dual Core E 2140 (1.60GHz)
- 2 gig ram

problem is I don't know why everyone has such a hard time with power
I WILL connect a 2nd BATT to have a seperate circuit.

I DO want to shut on and off the computer whenever I want ...
NOT the ignition switch.... (why are mp3car guys so fascinated with that??).

-I will run a laptop and or deskctop HDD
-I do want GPS (have the streets and trips and gps antenna) Rec a software?
-I want to run as much as possible off usb so I will be getting a couple of powered hubs.

Most people want the PC to startup/shutdown with the ignition out of convenience. Not having to press the button to boot a PC is a real time-saver, especially when the PC isn't easily accessible with the driver's seat.

I'd use a DC-DC PSU that meets your requirements and not use the SDC functionality, but use a power button to startup/shutdown the PC.
No big deal.

Why do others have a hard time with it? I don't know.

what I'm stumped by is all the problems people seem to be having.
why is it that there are all kinds of install issues etc

Are you more upset at the fact that you don't have your answers or that other people have problems figuring out their answers?

my laptop has driven arround with me for 50k miles (yes on) with no issues.
its plugged into an inverter with small 12v batt as a tank, then the main battery (yes fused).
the only thing i'm missing is touchscreen.
why do people here seem to think this is impossible or unfeasable?

I have my own theory on that.
Why are you so concerned with why everyone else has a problem with something?

Originally Posted by kazzxtrismus

why do people here seem to think this is impossible or unfeasable?

Define "this". I don't understand what is not possible. You seem so sure of everything that I don't even know what you are asking. Just install it and you're done.

I think most "problems" you are referring to are more software related than anything. Personally I don't have any hardware issues but am continuously tweaking this and that. (software wise)
Also, Xenarc monitors are generally better than all other brands, but more expensive. Sooo, more people buy the cheaper brands and ultimately those people have "problems".

I have no idea where you are going with this thread. The title infers that you are giving up on installing, but in the thread all you do is criticize the people on these forums and make claims that nobody has a working system. I don't know what threads you read, but if you go to the 'Show off your project' forum you'll see tons of working carPCs using laptops.

Originally Posted by kazzxtrismus

pls dont get the idea that i think nobodys setup is working...
i have the components and can choose to make whatever I want (lucky break)
but I'm starting to loose hope here

why...I'm not sure...thats the problem...
a massive majority of what I find is "problem posts"..software or otherwise.

are the majority of people "mucking" arround with their stuff constantly?
or are they trying to fix issues that should be working properly.

I dont buy OR plan to buy anything that has half assed drivers or half baked firmware.
a monitor should turn on and display the image and work like the one in my office.
12v is no excuse...sure smaller and a different resolution setting.

same with all the other items..otherwise its not a viable product.

i dont want to turn on my car and have it practically turn into a transformer
I even plan on keeping my stock deck.but turn it off for the carputer A/V

its just that if this stuff worked like it should there would be a great deal less problems....right???

but if most of these problems are from people scewing their mobo's to the carpeted back of the rear seats, not soldering as many joints as possible, not cooling with ducting and directed fans, not buffering their power, not gound LINEing as much as possible (and knowing chassis grounds is sub par), not float mounting HDD and DVD drives etc etc etc than yes they are asking for their problems.

but still nobody has said
most problems are from playing arround
too much re and re for the sake of nit picking etc etc

i just want to put it in set it up and forget it.
windows xp...just like at work.
and maybe some extras to FE it like an OE nav system etc etc

sooo whats the story???/
....is it fiddling arround or are these thing failing due to environment?...or is it that there are no products rugged enough to live in this environment for extended periods?

I expect 2+ years with no NEED for repairs etc...suure i may do an upgrade or 2...BUT....
pointless failure is not tolerated.

maybe i'm just too demanding..for MY hard earned money.

i do not expect to get the same quality of product from
"hungfungs no name discount chinese electronics surplus trdemark infringement store"
as Xenarc or lilliput..but at $1200 for outdated technology is a little rediculous...
i'll buy a few fans and fab some ducting instead.

One thing to say, DON'T EVEN BOTHER. Carputers ARE NOT an off the shelf solution, and do not think for even a second there is a solution that will work, with out hiccup for 2 years. What you are expecting is out of the realm of reality. It's like expecting your cell phone to work under water. That is not what it is designed for, but put a plastic bag around your cell, and it might not fry, but it won't work.

Buy an AVIC, and be done with it, and STOP YOUR COMPLAINING. It is clear this HOBBY is not for you.

Michael

Originally Posted by kazzxtrismus

ya apparently just for the cash burners
2 years no hiccup sis not asking too much
your aiming too low

c'mon really.. my homepc has laste 5 yrs no probs
my laptop has lasted 3 and been dropped a few times

a cell phone will work under water... you just need to coat the board with a conformal coating spray...$15 for a can big enough to coat 10 phones....
but they dont cause its more profitable not too..
google conformal coating spray...youll see.

No this HOBBY IS for me... because I say so. why so preterbed? someone upsettin' your applecart of complacency?

does the avic run any of the microsoft office pack???
then...not good enough.

thanks for not answering my question.....KMA

Either live with it, or shut the hell up. You don't like it, don't do it. Who the hell do you think you are to EXPECT SUCH AND SUCH. Well, do it or don't, just shut the hell up about it. You posted this crappy thread, and I gave you an answer, MOVE ON. THIS IS NOT FOR YOU. You think it is, but you are wrong, because the PRODUCTS ARE NOT UP TO YOUR STANDARD.

Your home PC and carpc are totally different. There is no "conformal" spray to fix this. Your home is A LOT DIFFERENT then a car. Just live with it, or change it, but stop effing complaining about it. It's simple, you are cheap, and won't spend thousands of dollars for your car pc to get what you want, assuming you could even find it. But you cry I WANT IT, I WANT IT, I EXPECT IT AND DEMAND IT. What a spoiled brat.

Once again, IF YOU EXPECT IT, FORGET IT, IT WON'T HAPPEN.

Now get on with it.

Michael

PS, Post a video of your cell phone working under water after a conformal spray. I would LOVE to see it.