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    neons pulsating to the music

    Hey all, i really dont think this is the right place to be to be asking this, or even the right site, but anyway I will ask and hope that someone can help me.

    What I was wondering, is it possible for me to splice multiple neons to one music sensor to make the neons pulse to the music?

    Hopefully someone can help me out here .

    Sorry again for posting something that isn't really related.

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    The only pulsing neons I have seen are the sound activated ones. Which really..if you have your music moderately loud, they will simply stay on and not flash.

    Unless you can find some sort of external controller that reads the actual audio signal for beat detection.

    I would also not recommend neons if you are doing the inside of your car.

    These will give a much better result than neons.
    http://www.oznium.com/led-ribbon

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    thanks for the reply. Those strips look interesting. I was probably going to use LED neons though, so they'll be bright enough.

    The sound activated ones are the ones that I might, and you can get sensors which you can adjust the sensitivity, so making it less sensitive will allow louder music and the neons to still pulse.

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    "LED neons" dont exist .

    LEDs dont use gas like neon to make light. You are probably referring to LEDs placed in a tube to look like a neon tube.

    Either way sort of ricy, but the way to make them pulse to the music is as Arcane suggests and reading the actual music directly from the low level lines. Then if you want pulsing only when louder than x, just put a comparator with the vref signal being the cutoff point for the neons. The signal from the comparator goes to a relay (or lots of relays) and that to your lights.
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    Yes, i know that there aren't LED Neons as such, i was just referring to the LED's in a tube. What does ricy mean anyway?

    How would I go about readng the 'low level lines', and connecting them to my LED's In A Tube.

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    There are many ways to control lighting using your computer. You won't end up with that ricey "pulsing" effect that sucks. Winamp has a lot of plugins (if you use mediaengine or roadrunner) that work with DJ lighting systems, as well as a few simpler ones that flash your keyboard lights (caps lock etc) to the music. Its just a little soldering and boom you have a lighting control that will run 3 lights arrays.

    Here is the link to the the keyboard controller..
    http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/58104

    Another link for a killer winamp light cube controller
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    Trust me, I have used those crappy neons, and these LEDs. The LEDs by FAR are better.

    Here is an image of them in action.







    The neons are the only ones that look ghetto. Plus, neons do not handle contrasting weather very well. You will end up replacing them around every 3 months..doubly so if anyone kicks them.

    The LEDs are very very tiny, and are made for automotive use.
    They come in strips you can cut to any length..plus they are cheaper, and use less energy.

    But, I guess some people will continue to use neons regardless of good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b1b2b3 View Post
    Yes, i know that there aren't LED Neons as such, i was just referring to the LED's in a tube. What does ricy mean anyway?

    How would I go about readng the 'low level lines', and connecting them to my LED's In A Tube.
    Quote Originally Posted by CarComp View Post
    There are many ways to control lighting using your computer. You won't end up with that ricey "pulsing" effect that sucks. Winamp has a lot of plugins (if you use mediaengine or roadrunner) that work with DJ lighting systems, as well as a few simpler ones that flash your keyboard lights (caps lock etc) to the music. Its just a little soldering and boom you have a lighting control that will run 3 lights arrays.

    Here is the link to the the keyboard controller..
    http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/58104

    Another link for a killer winamp light cube controller
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ization+winamp


    while good advice above, I dont think the OP has a computer. Even though he should.

    Anyways, the "comparator" I talked about above is a little IC. The "low level signals" is what goes from the headunit to the amp carries the audio which is a voltage. Amplitude varies with volume, and frequency varies with the music. Then the vref is a reference voltage. If you put a pot in there, you can adjust the level that makes the lights go off by adjusting the wiper.
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    I would love to put a computer in my car, but I'm not sure I'm ready to start pulling my car interior apart, and pulling apart a computer to make them fit. Doubt very much I could make it look as good as alot of people here have made theirs look. But i will be trying in the future, guaranteed . Anyway, thanks heaps for the info, I think I understand what to do, so I will give it a go when I find some well priced LED's!!! lol.
    If, when I come to doing the install, I have more questions, I will be back here very quick to ask.

    Thanks again .

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    You can buy 100 high brightness LEDs with matched resistors on ebay for about 20 bucks.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Fantastic-High-b...QQcmdZViewItem

    http://cgi.ebay.com/5mm-BLUE-LED-cle...QQcmdZViewItem
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