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    What can I afford!!!!??

    I FINALLY found this great website that sells in carputers, ive been looking for one for a while, but I dont know what I should get or afford. It seems these computers are twice the price of a fully decked out dell xps .. i can see why though but im 17 juss got my license and been goin crazy spendin money on my car.. i already bought a tomtom go 720 for $300, but im thinking i should have waited becasue these carputers..is the gps in these computers better than handheld gps devices? should i return the tomtom!?

    well i realyl wanted to know what I can afford.. right now im making monthly payments on a computer already and insurance and car loan so i dont have a lot of money but im getting paid $12 an hour under the table.. but i was thinking i sell my 360 and tomtom i should get around $800.. so what can i afford? what do you all suggest,, i want a decked out computer with touchscreen and iguidance, i dont care what the operating system is, whatever you suggest but please help me out here, i really want to get one of these things but i dont know what to get

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdock1 View Post
    I FINALLY found this great website that sells in carputers, ive been looking for one for a while, but I dont know what I should get or afford. It seems these computers are twice the price of a fully decked out dell xps .. i can see why though but im 17 juss got my license and been goin crazy spendin money on my car.. i already bought a tomtom go 720 for $300, but im thinking i should have waited becasue these carputers..is the gps in these computers better than handheld gps devices? should i return the tomtom!?

    well i realyl wanted to know what I can afford.. right now im making monthly payments on a computer already and insurance and car loan so i dont have a lot of money but im getting paid $12 an hour under the table.. but i was thinking i sell my 360 and tomtom i should get around $800.. so what can i afford? what do you all suggest,, i want a decked out computer with touchscreen and iguidance, i dont care what the operating system is, whatever you suggest but please help me out here, i really want to get one of these things but i dont know what to get

    thanks
    Here is how I did it.

    Laptop (Toshiba A105) $200
    Touchscreen (Xenarc)$350
    GPS software & dongle (Iguidance)$165
    Laptop DC adapter $45
    External 320gb usb powered drive (Iomega) -$100
    Sirus USB adapter & SCC1 -$110

    TOTAL $970 for the badest damn car PC out there.

    I call it the hybrid car PC because it charges it while I drive and then I put it in hibrination when I am at work for a quick boot up when I get off.

    Since I had help with installation it cost me $300 extra.

    Cameron

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlazzari View Post
    Here is how I did it.

    Laptop (Toshiba A105) $200
    Touchscreen (Xenarc)$350
    GPS software & dongle (Iguidance)$165
    Laptop DC adapter $45
    External 320gb usb powered drive (Iomega) -$100
    Sirus USB adapter & SCC1 -$110

    TOTAL $970 for the badest damn car PC out there.

    I call it the hybrid car PC because it charges it while I drive and then I put it in hibrination when I am at work for a quick boot up when I get off.

    Since I had help with installation it cost me $300 extra.

    Cameron
    Oh yeah one more thing I forgot...usb mini key board BTC $30

    TOTAL $1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameronlazzari View Post
    Here is how I did it.

    Laptop (Toshiba A105) $200
    Touchscreen (Xenarc)$350
    GPS software & dongle (Iguidance)$165
    Laptop DC adapter $45
    External 320gb usb powered drive (Iomega) -$100
    Sirus USB adapter & SCC1 -$110

    TOTAL $970 for the badest damn car PC out there.

    I call it the hybrid car PC because it charges it while I drive and then I put it in hibrination when I am at work for a quick boot up when I get off.

    Since I had help with installation it cost me $300 extra.

    Cameron
    holy **** , how did you use a laptop? i dont understand all of that, and why did you pay for the software haha go to thepiratebay.org and get it for free i know its not really nice but if its free then **** why pay

    but yeah how did you get a laptop? did you break of the screen or what!?!?

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    My suggestion to you is to take your time and REALLY read the wealth of information provided by this site. No one can really tell you what you need, you have to decide that by yourself. Do not jump in and start buying parts without a good understanding of what your buying.

    Here are my suggestions to saving come coin:

    Get a used computer, whether it be a laptop or tower. If you can, get one that someone is getting rid of (family, friends, work etc.) That will save you at least $300. This may limit what you want to do with your system, but most computers made after 2000 can play music and run GPS software without any hiccups. If you want to play movies and games then you may have to get a little more picky and pay attention to the specs of the computer.

    Do all the installation yourself. Not only will have the satisfaction of working on your car and learning, when something goes wrong (and trust me, something will) you'll know how to fix it. Be advised though, that before you install anything, make sure you do the research and know what you'll be doing. That will save you around $500.

    Browse this site for members selling different stuff. You might catch a deal.

    IMO, DO NOT skimp on your touch screen! That alone is about $400, but is well worth the money since that one device is what you'll use for the lifetime of your install (if used correctly) and you'll be using that every day you get into your car. A lot of times, if you break it it won't be fixable and you'll have to buy a brand new one. I'm sure a lot of members have experienced this. It's safer to go with quality in this category.

    Don't upgrade your speakers right away. You can always upgrade later. Do your research on how to utilize your stock headunit and stock speakers.

    Again, do your research and really understand what you're getting into. Nothing can save you more money than being knowledgable.

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    Well with the screen there are really only 3 options and it isn't Lilliput or Xenarc anymore.

    First is the flipout indash screen which look really tacky, and is really expensve $400+

    Then there is the non-sunlight-readable screens which can be had on eBay for $150+ new that work just fine and you can see them in the daylight somewhat but not if the sun shines directly on it like a fireball.

    The final option is the translfective screen with optically bonded touchscreen and all for $600/$700+

    The Lilliput vs. Xenarc battle is over and dead. They are made the same, they both last the same amount of time, and there is no difference between the two other than 1 has built in regulation and 1 has an egg for external regulation.

    As for the PC, just get some used stuff. eBay is your friend. I got a GM945 with a c2d T7600 off of eBay for under $250. Add 2Gb of RAM for $30, and a HD for $60 and that is a basic CarPC that only needs a screen $200 a couple years ago, still works. it's the same chinese ripoff of a Lilliput screen.

    The navigation on a computer I find better than some OEM nav but about equal to handheld navs on guidance alone. iGuidance 4 UMPC is really nice. Speaks the street names too that a lot of systems dont. Instead of "turn left in 200 feet" it is "turn left in 200 feet onto blah blah street" Garmin has released a PC version of their software (OSK free though) and you can run TomTom for the pocketPC on a full PC with an emulator. So all the options are there, and with all of that I would say PC based nav is better than regular non-PC based nav.


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    wow thanks... now i have an idea of what to do but i have NO idea in hell how to install it! i am very computer literate but when it comes to wires and all that idk... is there any specific way to install it!??? is there such thing as a company that installs these things for you? if so i bet it would cost thousands of dollars.. but anyway, there has to be a manual that tells you how to mount the computer in your car...but i guess it would be different to what make/model your car is? in my case its a decked out 99 intrepid..

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    I was in the exact boat as you 2 years ago. I still dont know much about the car, but it is installed at it works

    Well a computer is just like an amp in installation with a few extra wires. So you need a regular ground, regular constant power cable, and regular switched ignition power cable. Then a VGA cable to the dash for video, and a USB cable to the dash for the touchscreen. Most of the other stuff is either located right next to the PC, or routes a small way that you can figure out or ask them to do it.

    And by them I mean an installer. I went to CircuitCity and for the standard $80 amp installation fee, they installed the amp, and ran all my wires in the pockets. Since then I moved the PC from under the seat to in the trunk and ran all the wires myself again because in Circuit City the install area has a customer area that you can walk through and a window so you can see in. Pay them the $80 to do it, and watch closely. You see all the tools they use, exactly what plastic comes up and where to pull to make the piece come up, what to unbolt and what you dont have to and all that. It is like a $80 car take-apart lesson with a free amp install.

    Of course if you plan your PC in the trunk the whole time or dont move it, then they can do the whole thing. Any local car audio shop should be able to do it. Just show up with a long VGA extension cable, and a long USB extension cable and some good 4awg wire runs and everything you need. If you come sort of prepared they are more willing to do things they dont *have* to do but can while they are there.
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