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    A question about minlogon (and I have tried to find an answer!)

    Hi, so in the news few weeks I will finally be building a carputer, albeit not for myself, i'm still looking forward to it, i have many questions, and hopefully i'll be able to provide answers too at some point

    i've been into pc's for a while, lost interest to be honest, but the other day talking with a friend and he decided he wants a carputer, and has more money than sense when it comes to his car, he wasn't at all interested then i showed him this ere elm 327 lead which is quite useless to me as i don't have a laptop...

    anyways

    basically i've been playing around with xp on virtual pc today, and i revisited my old friend minlogon! its been a while, but i remembered why i loved it from before, and then imediatly after why i hated and cursed the sight of it.

    Before I get really into it, i'm wondering if there is a list on this forum (or anyware for that matter) of app's that simply do not work with minlogon, outlook express is the first one that springs to mind, i've looked thru the windows section of this forum on optimizing and what not and couldn't seem to find a thread, i was hoping to find a stickie on it.

    out of curiousity i've built pc's using sandisk extreme III flash cards for a hd, so i'm quite used to fiddling with windows (at least i think i am, may find otherwise in the next few weeks) and have spent waaaay to long getting xp to install onto a removable drive, and i belive i owe that to this forum for the hitatchi microdrive drivers felt i should say thanks for that now! was a while ago but still, good info.

    I have quite a few other questions too, but i haven't actually searched on this forum yet, i've searched google quite a bit and can't find the answers but i'll do some digging here, i'll ask in case anyone feels friendly mind

    firstly, My friends car is a subaru P1, now the elm327 cable didn't seem to work with any of the software i've tried with it, most irratingly ECUexplorer didn't work with it and that pretty much gave me a brick wall, now i've very new and about to read the forums for info, but i have a feeling i'd need a new cable..
    secondly, tooo many dashboard applicatins! i've downloaded a trial of centrafuse, and can't say i like it, i've looked atthe section for these apps but there doesn't seem to be a comparason post, or have i missed it, i was hoping to find something that had each one with a list of features (that have been finished)
    finallyMy friend was more interested in a 'free' approach to carputing, is there a userfriendly and user friendly installable linux car app around? i'm guessing obd would be a nightmare on linux, but i'd quite like to give it a go if theres anything, the little research i've done has shown me that gps and the obd stuff isn't very fun to get going..

    I'm sorry for the long post, and sorry for the questions, but i have looked, but this seems to be still a new thing for many

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    What modellyear is your friends car? If you are in Europe you need it to be 2001 or later for a petrol engine to work with the Elm-chips.
    Can you give more details on the car? What modell is a P1? What kind of engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p2psmurf View Post
    What modellyear is your friends car? If you are in Europe you need it to be 2001 or later for a petrol engine to work with the Elm-chips.
    Can you give more details on the car? What modell is a P1? What kind of engine?

    hi, its a subaru impreza p1, 2l turbo, i belive he's had the ecu replaced with a simtec ecu, not sure if that affects anything

    i've tried the cable in my 2000 diesel vectra (an gm/opel car) and it seemed to work, was able to get rpm, speed, fuel consumption in l/h airflow and a couple of others showed up, tried plugging it into my 2001 diesel astra and nothing came up as with the subaru, in both cars the software seemed to pick up the voltage but unable to connect, tried various app's nothing seemd to work with them.

    I must admit i'm finding it very difficult, i've contacted the people behind evoscan and they claimed it should work very well with the subaru, but recommended the most expensive cable they happen to sell, so i wasn't sure if it should work with the elm cable or if i really need to buy the openecu cable

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    You haven't answered the the most important question - what modelyear is it?
    If the ecu has been replaced than get some info on that new ecu. Is it a Subaru-factory supplied ecu or some aftermarket one?

    With regards to the diesels you have tried:
    These do NOT have to be compliant to anything. In Europe these diesels only have to be EOBD compliant starting 1st. january 2004. If anything works, you are lucky. Most diesels this age will not communicate at all.

    The Elm-chips only work with the OBD2/EOBD protocols. So, if the car does not support that, they are useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p2psmurf View Post
    You haven't answered the the most important question - what modelyear is it?
    If the ecu has been replaced than get some info on that new ecu. Is it a Subaru-factory supplied ecu or some aftermarket one?

    With regards to the diesels you have tried:
    These do NOT have to be compliant to anything. In Europe these diesels only have to be EOBD compliant starting 1st. january 2004. If anything works, you are lucky. Most diesels this age will not communicate at all.

    The Elm-chips only work with the OBD2/EOBD protocols. So, if the car does not support that, they are useless.
    i edited the post afterwards but the change hasn't shown up ?

    lots of my posts aren't actually

    its a 2000 impreza, the p1 one was a limited edition, one of a thousand made, i think the subaru uses its own protocols, some sites seem to suggest the open ecu cable, but it seems expensive for a cable???

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    If EOBD reading is unsuccessfull then it's logical that this car uses a propetary Subaru protocol. Nothing you can do about that.
    2000 is a year where a car can be EOBD compliant or not. It's mandatory in 2001, so it's stil legal.

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