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    i totally agree with redoing the first responder systems, but I do not believe anything in its current development state is good enough for it. Anything related to first responders has to be reliable, and accurate. While many of the software FE's on this forum are very good at what they do, none of them are 100% reliable. A general understanding comes with todays FE's that you will have to do some tweaking, that there will be some problems, that somethings might work one day, and not the next. It is understood that you just work through it, till it is right. These kind of problems can not be present.
    Honestly, in order for this project to work, you would have to have a dedicated, paid team of engineers working on the software and the hardware. Ideally the system would be rolled out in an embedded design. While I would love see this project come to fruition, I do not believe that this is the forum for it.
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    also note, relying on a service such as twitter is not the smartest thing for first responder, because in the last year, twitter has been down a total of 408 hours. a single second of missed data is not good for a first responder.
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    All of these ideas are just various concepts, nothing more. You are right in that if a solution was developed it would need engineers and a whole lot of other people working on it to make it 100% stable and workable, embedded, secure as well.

    With that in mind, the initial idea of the project, was really just to port address details to the CarPuter Nav system. Which is still something i would love to do. The other stuff was just showing that in the future there are so many capabilities for carputer systems in emergency services.

    Whilst i have looked at it, in terms of Emergency services (for Nav), the reality is that a solution that ports addresses to the nav system automatically could be useful for a lot of people, including businessmen etc. If in Outlook, or whatever they have the location of their meetings set, as an address. There could be a plugin for outlook or something that ports the address into nav ready to go.

    All again just concepts, but it would be great to see one of the concepts working , just to make life easier and show the CarPuter can be used to make some of the concepts a reality (albeit, not so reliable initially, but still working concepts)

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    All of these ideas are just various concepts, nothing more. You are right in that if a solution was developed it would need engineers and a whole lot of other people working on it to make it 100% stable and workable, embedded, secure as well.

    With that in mind, the initial idea of the project, was really just to port address details to the CarPuter Nav system. Which is still something i would love to do. The other stuff was just showing that in the future there are so many capabilities for carputer systems in emergency services.

    Whilst i have looked at it, in terms of Emergency services (for Nav), the reality is that a solution that ports addresses to the nav system automatically could be useful for a lot of people, including businessmen etc. If in Outlook, or whatever they have the location of their meetings set, as an address. There could be a plugin for outlook or something that ports the address into nav ready to go.

    All again just concepts, but it would be great to see one of the concepts working , just to make life easier and show the CarPuter can be used to make some of the concepts a reality (albeit, not so reliable initially, but still working concepts)

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnusuallyGenius View Post
    also note, relying on a service such as twitter is not the smartest thing for first responder, because in the last year, twitter has been down a total of 408 hours. a single second of missed data is not good for a first responder.
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    In my case, i was thinking of using this in a home network based system. Because i carry a pager on me anyway, its more useful when i am at home and can actually respond. It becomes a secondary further information system, with the primary and reliabiale pager system being the main way i respond.

    Then the server software maps all pager messages for me so i can get a better idea of the statewide / local area situation, and the server passes across via UDP broadcast (to the LAN / WLAN) messages to any clients with messages / calls relating to them. So for example my pager calls go to NAWE, so any NAWE messages go to clients as well as being mapped. and the plugin on CF or RR would take the geocoded address (geocoded on server) and enter it into nav, as well as displaying more maps, and information from google maps / earth (eg hybrid maps, direction maps, terrain) and even getting weather feeds linked in would be useful for me. Just to give an idea.

    This is no way ment to be a system for actual use by orginisations, just more so to assist me, especially given the high fire risk area i live in. And to provide me with more information, it is a secondary system so reliability would be nice, but if it does not work, or has moments where it goes down. Then i can still repond as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnusuallyGenius View Post
    i totally agree with redoing the first responder systems, but I do not believe anything in its current development state is good enough for it. Anything related to first responders has to be reliable, and accurate. While many of the software FE's on this forum are very good at what they do, none of them are 100% reliable. A general understanding comes with todays FE's that you will have to do some tweaking, that there will be some problems, that somethings might work one day, and not the next. It is understood that you just work through it, till it is right. These kind of problems can not be present.
    Honestly, in order for this project to work, you would have to have a dedicated, paid team of engineers working on the software and the hardware. Ideally the system would be rolled out in an embedded design. While I would love see this project come to fruition, I do not believe that this is the forum for it.
    Right, but he's using it to make finding the response location easier. At least in this first step. The manual fallback is that he has to type in the location manually -just like he does today.

    As long as you consider this to be an experimental rather than operational system, then you can build an experimental system that sometimes will sometime work and sometimes won't without worry of response time impact.

    In that case, this is absolutely the right forum for doing that.
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    Good point bugbyte. Besides isn't this whole community basically about innovation?
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    , thats why i enjoy having a look over these forums, i think they are a great source of innovation and new ideas.

    Does anyone have any idea of how a plugin would be able to pass across address, or geocoded lat / long to the RR or CF software's nav section, and just listen in for messages, kind of like a rss feed or something . I am creating a program which will send broadcast messages on alerts, so the alert would be picked up by the client (the udp broadcast alert) and then the plugin would extract the data and show it on my own google earth map on one screen, and on the main screen (nav) to pass across the address and start. So you don't need to hit a button, it just sends the address, confirms it and starts

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    If you don't get an answer here, post in the CF or RR section with a descriptive title like, "How to pass nav info via RR plugin".
    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruzer View Post
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