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Thread: New to the Scene, Could Use some assistance with CarPC Setup

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    Id like to hear what they have to say. But I'll probably go with the Zotac board Challenged used. Seems like a decent board that is working out for him. So that leads me to the next stuff...
    1. Should I try to go for windows 7? Or should I just use the software I have at home and run XP on the system?
    2. I need some help on frontend choices. There are so many and I'm getting confused on whats a good choice because some programs don't work with certain frontends and all. It's confusing.
    3. How should I go about audio on the setup. I think I'm going to have to feed the audio from the PC to my aux-in spot on my stock head unit instead of rewiring the car. Should I just use something basic or go with an upgraded audio card?

    Plus I still need to figure out how to mount a screen as a manual pull out screen. I don't have the ability to custom mold it into my dash so I need to tuck it away at times.

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    really, most of this is personal preferace:

    1. i still use xp, and don't like win 7,but win 7 has the hybrid sleep-- that could be good for a carputer...

    2. the easiest way to find out is to determine what you want it to do, and look at what front end supports those features, and then try each one to find one that works for you-- each one is different for a reason.

    3. again, up to you-- putting it to the aux line is definatly the easiest...

    i am going to take a guess here because i didn't see it-- you have a 9-3 right(being that the 9-5 has a cupholder mounted on the side of the radio vertically)? i know that the cupholder extends about 5-6" into the dash, so you should have more than enough room for it, but it will require a little fab work to get it to fit..

    nothing is easy in a saab...

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    Yep good ole 9-3. Here's a picture of the dash. Not my car but the idea is shown.


    In between the head unit and AC control is a small piece that has the cup holder and the onstar buttons (buttons not shown in picture). I wanted to remove the buttons and cupholder and make a space for the screen to come out of there and be pushed back inside. Powered unit would be trouble since all the old threads I find seem to die out and the ideas for powering the movement don't work ha. But thats my idea. Basically the screen would pull out and flip up inbetween the two head unit knobs. Since I have steering wheel control I can switch to the aux-in and still control system volume that way. Hopefully it can work. Any ideas how to mount it in there?

    Also, the more I research the more I'm finding guys saying this process can be close to $1k to finish. I don't have that much to spend on this system so I'm back to wondering if I should just use the old laptop sitting around. What kind of specs should I look into on the laptop to see if it can handle running the necessary programs?

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    after seeing it, i now remember the hardest part of the 9-3, the dash is coated in a rubbery material, so it very hard to replicate this(and i remember because any cars that would come in that had been heavily used would have parts of the rubber layer worn off the dash bezel)...


    what about mounting the display in the cubby at the bottom of the stack? i know it is a little low, but is the most open area in the dash..

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman98 View Post
    after seeing it, i now remember the hardest part of the 9-3, the dash is coated in a rubbery material, so it very hard to replicate this(and i remember because any cars that would come in that had been heavily used would have parts of the rubber layer worn off the dash bezel)...


    what about mounting the display in the cubby at the bottom of the stack? i know it is a little low, but is the most open area in the dash..
    Its way too low. I was hoping that would work but for one, with the car in park I couldn't access the screen at all and second, while driving it would be difficult to see/use being so low.

    The rubbery coating is not a big deal really. Plasti-dip is decent and I can use it on the piece I'm making. I can also spray the rest of my trim to match later if it bothers me. So I'm ok with that. That's why I figured mounting it inside that slim trim piece would be good. I really wanted to relocate the head unit and custom fab something to fit the screen up there but it doesn't seem logical at this point. As much as I'd like to do this, each day of r&d kind of says no it's not going to work.

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    i haven't touched a saab in about 4 years(used to work at a saab dealer), so could you post the exact height of the cup holder panel? i have some ideas, but if you only have a 1/2" to work with, they might not work.

    most monitors are a 1" to 1-1/2", but you might be able to do a pivot on the side of the monitor, so the monitor isn't any thicker.

    the advantage to the cupholder panel is that i think that it is a separate piece(though i can't verify it), so at the very worst, you need a new cupholder... it could even be painted differently and look good because it is separate.

    i always wanted to mod a 9-3 aero(loved the styling), just never had the $40k for one yet

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    Were you a tech or sales or what? Hopefully tech ha. I do love my Aero but it's hard getting used to modifying this car. I mean I'm enjoying modifying it but its tough because of the things they put into it. Makes it a lot more difficult.

    What dimensions do you need? The cupholder trim piece is just under 1". I was thinking I could strip down the touchscreen to just the screen and have that move. I'd love to hear your ideas. Putting it lower would work well with the 6disc and open slot removed because I could have it at a slight angle for touching but its just weird with the shifter in park. It would be very difficult to use. I'd have to put the car in the On position and move the shifter to use it. Which may not be that bad. We'll see.

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    here is what i asked:

    can the AT3N7A-I display vga and hdmi at the same time?

    is 600 X 480 supported with one or dual?

    is the bluetooth removable?

    well i gota say that was fast but heres what we got from asus:

    Normally you would only have issues running dual monitors on 2 digital out puts an analog and digital will normally not have issues although I think it may be limited to cloning mode only (I have heard rumors but that does not make sense to me). Unfortunately there is no convertor for hdmi to vga as they are 2 different signal types analog and digital. 800 600 is the standard display resoltion. and the blue tooth is normally disableable but not removable
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    so, thumbs up for response time, two thumbs down for not really answering my questions specifically about the board. he would have been better off with a link to where ever this info is on their site and not just a robotic response.

    yes building a carpc may not be cheap and may seem stupid to some people that say "y are u doing that when u can just get a cheap and easy chinese flip out head unit?" buts its more a personal quest and has far more use than most of the stupid mods people buy into, shiny 20" wheels, super chips, stupid loud mufflers, blab blab blab

    but any who i'd say u are on to a good start as to figuring out what u want first and your budget then moving on to parts, fab, and build. and shop around for parts cause ive done may very basic build for < $300 (lots of fleebay)

    BTW why is your steering wheel on the wrong side?

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    haha not my car. I'm happy with my progress but as my first carpc I'm wondering if I should just try my laptop first while I plan a larger project. That way I can try to mount the screen somehow, play around with frontends and software and then when I'm ready to build something stronger I'll have a better grasp.

    I know I asked a few times but what would my old laptop need in it to be able to run the software I wanted? I know I'd need to beef up the hdd somehow.

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    i was a porter-- better than sales, and tech, cause all i had to do was clean 'em and drive 'em...

    i have been meaning to do this for a while, and this gave me a good excuse..

    here is the depth of every 7" monitor in the mp3 car store:
    zenarc 702tsv: 1.3"
    zenarc 706tsv: 1.4"
    zenarc 700tsv : 1.42"
    zenarc 705tsv: 1.14"
    lilliput 629gl: 1.3"
    lilliput 619: 1.3"
    lilliput 701: 1-3/8"
    mimo 720: 1"

    the mimo appears to be the best option, but is a usb screen, so bios and some setup options won't always be available...

    my lilli 629gl has 2 circuitboards folded up inside it-- i do not think that these boards are designed to be constantly moving, so these boards need to stay together, adding to the thickness-- it might be possible to get it down to 1" but that is gonna be very close.

    see this for referance:
    http://bybyte.com/images/ABS626-701-Instructions.pdf

    my ideas use small hinges to get the screen up, and maybe a small, high tension spring to keep the screen up, but this is untested...

    post up the specs of the laptop, and it would be easier to tell if it would work

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