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    1969 VW Bug - Planning First Car PC Please Advise

    So I have been debating a car pc for several weeks now and decided to jump in with both feet. I have a few questions and a few ideas I would like to bounce of the community here.

    Current Plan:

    Place a 7" touch screen into the dash, use a small pc capable of running Windows 7 for Windows Media Center and for use with a Cricket or Verizon wireless card for mobile internet. Audio will be running to a decent sound system which is based on some JL Audio and Eclipse products.

    Concerns

    Power, my car is old, but it is running a dual battery system I want a machine that will draw low power, but still provide enough power not to slow down during operation?

    Do I need to just use a power inverter to run the pc or is something else better?

    Audio output quality is of some concern, I will be using mostly Pandora and MP3 files so I suppose I don't have to be too picky with the sound card?

    Products

    I am considering the following products for the build...

    http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

    http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/em...1100/index.jsp

    http://www.mini-box.com/VM7000-7-touchscreen

    Any suggestions and advice will be greatly appreciated :-)

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    the best place to start is the more-helpful-than-most faq's:

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/advfaq.php

    overall, it looks like you are on the right track, though powering the computer can be different-- mp3car sells dc-dc adapters for different motherboards-- and i believe that there are enough different solutions to power almost any setup you would want.

    your dell link isn't going through so you might have to be more specific about what your looking for there.

    for the via board--i have heard that via processors are slower than intel's similar offerings, but via purists say that they handle most tasks fine.

    i have used a dual core atom board(the 945 in the store), and it was plenty fast running xp sp3, and some of my audio processing(very cpu intensive)-it was also a power sipper-i ran it for 3 hours once with the engine off with almost no effect on battery voltage(i think my yellow top dropped .5 volts..)- i ended up swapping it out when i needed to add more audio control, but the board couldn't handle it, and have been using it as a home computer--and it has taken everything that a home computer can do without a problem.

    the primary reason for using a dc-dc adapter instead of a inverter is that it removes the extra steps-- for a inverter setup, you are going dc-ac-dc, and a dc-dc takes out the ac conversion, helping to eliminate some of the problems that sometimes happen in inverter setups..

    for most, the on board audio is fine, though, if you have any special requirements for audio(active crossovers, computer controlled audio), then a external, or addon sound card can help.

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    Main advantage of the DC-DC power supply is the auto start. Inverters can be finicky. Some work fine, others cause noise in the audio. Plenty of people use them without problem, though.

    Get an intelligent DC-DC power supply, an Intel 945 and a VGA screen and you'll be on your way. Forget Windows Media Center and run Ride Runner. It's designed for the car. But hey, try it out and see for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundman98 View Post
    the best place to start is the more-helpful-than-most faq's:

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/advfaq.php

    overall, it looks like you are on the right track, though powering the computer can be different-- mp3car sells dc-dc adapters for different motherboards-- and i believe that there are enough different solutions to power almost any setup you would want.

    your dell link isn't going through so you might have to be more specific about what your looking for there.

    for the via board--i have heard that via processors are slower than intel's similar offerings, but via purists say that they handle most tasks fine.

    i have used a dual core atom board(the 945 in the store), and it was plenty fast running xp sp3, and some of my audio processing(very cpu intensive)-it was also a power sipper-i ran it for 3 hours once with the engine off with almost no effect on battery voltage(i think my yellow top dropped .5 volts..)- i ended up swapping it out when i needed to add more audio control, but the board couldn't handle it, and have been using it as a home computer--and it has taken everything that a home computer can do without a problem.

    the primary reason for using a dc-dc adapter instead of a inverter is that it removes the extra steps-- for a inverter setup, you are going dc-ac-dc, and a dc-dc takes out the ac conversion, helping to eliminate some of the problems that sometimes happen in inverter setups..

    for most, the on board audio is fine, though, if you have any special requirements for audio(active crossovers, computer controlled audio), then a external, or addon sound card can help.
    This is the Dell I was looking at: http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugbyte View Post
    Main advantage of the DC-DC power supply is the auto start. Inverters can be finicky. Some work fine, others cause noise in the audio. Plenty of people use them without problem, though.

    Get an intelligent DC-DC power supply, an Intel 945 and a VGA screen and you'll be on your way. Forget Windows Media Center and run Ride Runner. It's designed for the car. But hey, try it out and see for yourself.
    Any recommendation for the DC-DC PSU? For the Dell Zino HD?

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    You know the more I think about it, the ability to take the car pc with me just seems natural? I am thinking about just installing a carbon fiber panel on the dash and using the car mount with this unit?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-010-_-Product


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    that would probably work-- for a power supply, you would need to check the rating on the included charger, and then look for a dc-dc with the same voltage, and amp rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mi1stormilst View Post
    Any recommendation for the DC-DC PSU? For the Dell Zino HD?
    I have one of those and they are 19V. The Carnetix P1900 would be great.
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