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    Are there any good pre-build double din carputers?

    I've been toying with the idea of installing a carputer for years, but I am too lazy to do all the necessary research.

    I started wondering whether or not you could just buy a double din unit that will contain everything, and it's just as easy to install as a new receiver. Well, I found the Guru in the mp3car.com store, but it's advertised as a test unit. Infill G4 also looks like a good unit, but seems out of stock. There are a few units that look good over at revo-sys.com

    Are any of these worth buying? Are there better ones out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithFire View Post
    I've been toying with the idea of installing a carputer for years, but I am too lazy to do all the necessary research.
    If you're too lazy to research all that it takes to install, then I think a PC in your ride is not up your alley.
    This is a project that is never complete, as there are always updates, additional functionality, things you want to try and fiddly little things to try or change. It's a tinkerer's wet dream of a project, but not one for someone who wants a simple "plug in and go" device.

    I started wondering whether or not you could just buy a double din unit that will contain everything, and it's just as easy to install as a new receiver. Well, I found the Guru in the mp3car.com store, but it's advertised as a test unit. Infill G4 also looks like a good unit, but seems out of stock. There are a few units that look good over at revo-sys.com

    Are any of these worth buying? Are there better ones out there?
    In my opinion, no.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    If you're too lazy to research all that it takes to install, then I think a PC in your ride is not up your alley.
    Do you feel the same way about people who don't want to build their own computers?

    I want to have control over my system without having to learn how to wire everything up. I've installed two car stereos before, and I am comfortable with that. My netbook has enough power for a car pc, so I am surprised that there's no car stereo that just has guts similar to a netbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayWithFire View Post
    Do you feel the same way about people who don't want to build their own computers?
    Not at all.

    Fact of the matter is, this hobby isn't for those that want a plug-n-play solution.
    Even the pre-assembled units like the Guru and the Infill have their niggling little quirks.
    There are configuration issues, drivers to install & maintain, software updates to apply, tweaking, etc.

    It's not a "set it up and forget it" type of project. Based on that fact alone, it's not something that someone who is admittedly lazy about researching information is going to want to undertake. If you're too lazy to want to use a search engine, then you're probably not going to want to spend the time fiddling with everything that is necessary to keep the PC in your ride running the way you want, either.

    I want to have control over my system without having to learn how to wire everything up. I've installed two car stereos before, and I am comfortable with that. My netbook has enough power for a car pc, so I am surprised that there's no car stereo that just has guts similar to a netbook.
    This is a niche hobby. It's not for everyone.
    There have been lots of innovations in the areas of installation simplicity, functionality, user-friendliness of interface and such, but there are simply not products on the market that have both a simple head-unit style installation and a build quality worth recommending.

    Sorry you're not getting what you want, but that's the state of the hobby as it is right now.
    Frankly, I don't expect it to change any time soon.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    @ playwithfire

    I hear where you are coming from. There isn't much information out there and the information that is available is to an extent hardcore and not easy to understand without a serious case study.

    Don't mind DarquePervert, he does come across a bit strong BUT he does know his stuff.

    Back to your original question.
    I am still a newbie. I am in the process of working on 2 different solutions.
    1.) 7" monitor + voompc type of computer
    2.) 2Din infill G4 that I bought used and has issues

    There is a UK place that seems to offer working infill G4s. I had mine running for a brief time and I loved the idea of having a unit that seems to do everything you need.

    The other solution of finding all the right parts is like what Darque mentioned. A real adventure that won't happen within a month. So, I have to agree with him. This does take some passion if you end up wanting to all those little things like tire pressure, obdII, ect, ect ...

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    Fact of the matter is, this hobby isn't for those that want a plug-n-play solution.
    lolo, one of the main reasons I am here and why I keep posting.
    As I keep saying, there is a market for this!

    Even the pre-assembled units like the Guru and the Infill have their niggling little quirks.
    There are configuration issues, drivers to install & maintain, software updates to apply, tweaking, etc.
    lolo, but that is like any pc. However, if you don't sit on the cutting edge and could wait a a few weeks for updates to stabilize and software to catch up you don't run into this issue as much.

    My office XP machine hasn't been updated in 3 years! (ahem, I don't allow it on the the net)
    My office G4 iMac only gets system updates every 3-4 months. (I don't bother with software updates on that machine)
    My daily mule MacBook Pro gets irregular care.

    So, the point is that if you have a stable setup, I don't see much of a reason to fiddle with it unless you some how crash the beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapporoGuy View Post
    @ comments



    lolo, one of the main reasons I am here and why I keep posting.
    As I keep saying, there is a market for this!



    lolo, but that is like any pc. However, if you don't sit on the cutting edge and could wait a a few weeks for updates to stabilize and software to catch up you don't run into this issue as much.

    My office XP machine hasn't been updated in 3 years! (ahem, I don't allow it on the the net)
    My office G4 iMac only gets system updates every 3-4 months. (I don't bother with software updates on that machine)
    My daily mule MacBook Pro gets irregular care.

    So, the point is that if you have a stable setup, I don't see much of a reason to fiddle with it unless you some how crash the beast.
    ok, i'll bite...

    here is the problem i see: Who is going to service these plug-n-play systems?
    the user bought it because it was simple to install, but might not have any technological background, and most locations that sell them don't usually offer too much support...(who can you send it into for repair when you don't know what your doing?)

    and really, i don't think that anyone would be too happy to hear that they need to pull out their carpc, and send it in for service every time it gets messed up..(on this same note, i can't get a computer in my house to run stably for more then a month--because i have 5 computer illiterate people that "just clicked on the link..." )


    those are the main concerns i have for the all-in-one carpc's-- prove me wrong, and i won't have such a large problem with them...

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    Maybe a good option for you is something like the viliv x70 http://www.myviliv.com/eng 7" screen includes most everything and can be removed for servicing just a thought SNO

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapporoGuy View Post
    lolo, one of the main reasons I am here and why I keep posting.
    As I keep saying, there is a market for this!
    I agree that there is a market. It's a question of how big that market is.
    Personally, I don't think it is big enough to get a mass-produced unit that would sell enough units to bring the price down from the stratosphere.
    I could be wrong.



    lolo, but that is like any pc. However, if you don't sit on the cutting edge and could wait a a few weeks for updates to stabilize and software to catch up you don't run into this issue as much.
    It's not about being on the cutting edge.

    My office XP machine hasn't been updated in 3 years! (ahem, I don't allow it on the the net)
    My office G4 iMac only gets system updates every 3-4 months. (I don't bother with software updates on that machine)
    My daily mule MacBook Pro gets irregular care.

    So, the point is that if you have a stable setup, I don't see much of a reason to fiddle with it unless you some how crash the beast.
    You run Windows, you're going to crash at some point. It's inevitable.
    Even the occasional full reboot for someone who hibernates regularly is a necessary task.
    A PSU acts wonky and needs reconnected.

    Even if you get the ideally stable system, at some point most of us see a new skin for the front-end or see some functionality we want to add.
    In my mind, that's one of the positive aspects of a PC-based setup. You can add functionality easily and with relatively little cost.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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