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    Unhappy Help needed! Boot-problem kind of...

    I'm installing a pc in my 1997 Mitsubishi eclipse. When starting up the computer there's usually no problems but after a while the screen turns black, the computer reboots and a error (?) screen comes up. What does this mean?

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    my hardware is the following:
    Shuttle Xpc motherboard (don't remember the model but it's around 7 years old)
    intel pentium 4 3GHz underclocked and undervolted to 1,5GHz running at 1,00volts
    1GB of 800MHz RAM
    onboard graphics
    WD 500GB 7200rpm HDD 3,5"
    M2-ATX 160w PSU

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    i've seen a similar screen on my carpc before. a reboot has always cleared it up. i believe it might have something to do with my memory becoming unslotted, though no real proof.

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    Looks like your bios is locking up during POST (power on self test) usually that's related to some type of hardware issue like mobo, cpu, ram etc.

    It may also be a result of your system getting too hot. I would start by disconnecting all drives, and mem and then try to boot it. Then add 1 mem stick, then the other then the drives 1 by 1 to see if you can isolate the problem.

    It may be good idea to get something like core temp to monitor your cpu temp and other things.

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    I've tried the same thing with another hard drive but got the same screen, will today try changing the ram if I have time.

    I'm pretty sure that heat isn't the problem. It's winter here in Finland now, last time I checked the "system health" from BIOS on a startup it said CPU-temp 2 degrees Celsius and after the error a bit under 10 degrees

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    Your system could be hanging while trying to boot from a USB device. Make sure USB boot is disabled in the BIOS.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    Your system could be hanging while trying to boot from a USB device. Make sure USB boot is disabled in the BIOS.
    This is always the first thing to check. And it doesn't even have to be a bootable USB device that's causing the hang. An improper firmware or driver file can make a computer hang this very same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicxtacy02 View Post
    This is always the first thing to check. And it doesn't even have to be a bootable USB device that's causing the hang. An improper firmware or driver file can make a computer hang this very same way.
    It won't be a driver or file because the OS hasn't even loaded. If you have mem checking on the bios on and bad ram it's probably hanging when it's trying to initialize the ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGHT View Post
    It won't be a driver or file because the OS hasn't even loaded. If you have mem checking on the bios on and bad ram it's probably hanging when it's trying to initialize the ram.
    By the time the POST is at this point, the memory check is already complete. That's one of the first things that happens during POST.
    BIOS is looking for storage devices.

    Another suggestion is to look at the jumper settings on the PATA devices. It found the hard drive as a master on PATA1. What about the slave? Is there a second HDD or optical drive on that IDE chain? If there is an IDE device, are cables securely connected? Are they set to "cable select" with jumpers? Have you tried setting the jumpers to master/slave?
    Some BIOS's will let you force a PATA device to "none" to prevent BIOS from checking on that port if there is no device present.

    Some things to look at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LGHT View Post
    It won't be a driver or file because the OS hasn't even loaded. If you have mem checking on the bios on and bad ram it's probably hanging when it's trying to initialize the ram.
    on my intel 945gl board the POST would take 15 seconds longer with a creative x-fi usb sound card--no matter what bios settings i enabled/disabled... you can't tell me that usb devices don't affect pre-boot issues...

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    Unless i missed someone suggesting it, Reset your BIOS via removing the onboard battery and leaving it for a few moments before plugging her back in and firing her up.
    I have seen plenty of CarPC's play up around this area due to back start/shutdown cycles

    But i would say this is at the point of looking for devices and can be a few causes to freeze here, If the BIOS reset dont work, Dont forget to also try the FailSafe settings in the BIOS.... It could be something simple like a configuration todo with SATA/IDE or so on.. But does look to be stopping on the second hdd/device
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