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    Planning my first Carpc - will appreciate any suggestions and help

    Greetings all,


    I am planning to build my first car PC for my Camry 2009 and would appreciate any help or suggestions.



    1. I already have :



    I already have a small PC of size 6.7 inch x 1.6 inch x 7.3 inch with AMD G series Qualcore 1.4 GHz, 4GB RAM , 500 GB SSD, one display port and one DVI-I port, 4 x USB 2.0 2x USB 3.0. It takes 19 V DC input and is running windows 8 64bit. The cold boot up time is around 20 sec.




    2. What all the other components would I need to go with it?



    I would need a display: preferably 7 inch capacitive with multi-touch, please recommend.
    +USB GPS

    If possible, please help me list down all the components I will need and also if possible approx price.


    3. Where to buy the components? I am also looking for a store, where I can go and verify if the product will work for me before buying, and can also get it fixed from the store. I am in bay area and best location for the store would be with in Union City/Fremont/Milpitas/ San Jose / Santa Clara / Sunnyvale and or other close by areas.


    4. Where to get the setup done? Could you please recommend me a place where I can get everything fit in the car professionally? Again I have a Camry 2009.


    Any other suggestion or comments are welcome.



    Thanks a lot for your help!
    pkaush

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    Welcome to the forum! For starters you will need to power that computer this is my recommendation http://store.mp3car.com/Carnetix_CNX..._p/pwr-010.htm if you get the 5v adapter you will be covered for a powered hub as well as 12v for your monitor. GPS you could go the standard route and get the bu-353-s4 also available at the store (I have this model and the older bu-353) but my recommendation is a development board from sure electronics , it has external antenna and works excellent. here is the link http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=99 AM/FM/HD radio go with either the directed hd or visteon they are the same unit and get the usb cable by mitch on the store to control the radio from your computer in one of the frontends. Monitor I would go with the high brightness 5 wire resistive liliput http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_669..._p/mon-123.htm The 5 wire makes a big difference. You should be able to order the monitor in a bezel to fit your car already send an email to the store with your request I am sure they will help. All these products are already proven in this forum so no need to verify in store as I really don't think you will find a store selling these parts. Front end software of choice to put it all together would be Driveline, it is very stable and works with most popular hardware on this forum/recommendations. You might also want to get a OBD2 dongle to read info from your vehicle. Don't scrimp on this one and get the scantool MX it is bluetooth and is fast also works perfect in Driveline. Hope this helps and are only my personal recommendations. Good luck and make a worklog so we can follow your progress! SNO
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    Thanks SNOtwistR for your response!

    For touchscreen, I am more inclined towards capacitive, and after reading some of the reviews on this forum, I think people liked using it.

    I know few folks have already started using windows 8 on there Carpc, do you guys see any problem because of the lower resolution. Windows 8 metro apps have a minimum resolution requirement.

    What would be the best navigation software for windows 8, given Garmin has pulled out the support for PC. (or should I think about dual boot it with android)?

    Even if I buy all the components online, I might still need help to set it all up in my car. And I am not sure if I go to a car workshop, where people haven't done it before would be able to do it right. Could someone from bay area please suggest me a car workshop, where you (or someone you know) got the car pc setup done and liked the work. The areas closer to me are Union City/Fremont/Milpitas/ San Jose / Santa Clara / Sunnyvale.

    What would be the preferred place to set up the PC - should I try to get it in car boot, or car glove box, or may be inside dashboard, any recommendations ?

    Thanks!

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    i ran my monitor @ 1024X768 after I installed Windows 8, the resolution looked OK but the thing that bothered me is that you can't go out of the Metro without a keyboard or a mouse.

    For navigation probably Garmin is still the best, yes they pulled out of the PC version but newer maps are still compatible AFAIK.

    I prefer the boot for installing the PC.

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    Thanks Alawadhi for your suggestions and please pardon the delay!

    I totally agree with having the PC in the boot would look nice, but how about the length of the wires to the dash, could there be a signal drop or other similar issues. I think the HDMI signals can travel through a long cable, but would DVI work in the same manner. Has anyone faced a problem because of the long length of cable.

    Also, what about the power button. I could set my PC to start while starting the car, but how about if I have shut it down for some reason and want to start it again while driving. I have five buttons on my steering wheel I guess I could use one of them to start the PC. Has anyone tried this or something similar?

    And what about the power connections, do we connect the entire setup to battery or only use it when the engine is started - the PC I have takes 15 Watt and Display 8 Watt.

    Alawadhi – In your response – “you can't go out of the Metro without a keyboard or a mouse” – Do you mean that the desktop icon on the Metro start menu doesn’t work, or do you mean we cannot swipe the metro app out of the display.

    Hi SNO – In your response –“ if you get the 5v adapter you will be covered for a powered hub as well as 12v for your monitor” – what adaptor were you talking about?

    I am soon planning to begin building my CarPc and would appreciate if someone could point out a good car mechanic or workshop, who could set it up in Car. I am not yet comfortable in fixing stuff in the car, and yeah I know I need to learn that. SO please if anyone has got his carpc setup done in a workshop or through a mechanic in bay area, please recommend.

    Appreciate your help!

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    There is a 5v adapter for that carnetix power supply I pointed you to in my post http://store.mp3car.com/Carnetix_CNX..._p/pwr-016.htm using that carnetix power supply you would get 19v and 12v for monitor and this little addon card gives you 5v all from the 1 unit. SNO

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    Thanks again SNO - this looks like a addon and I could power my USB hub with this.

    Yesterday I went through a lot of information on this forum and now I have a better understanding of what I need. Thanks to everyone on this forum for such a valuable info.

    I still have some question:

    It looks like I should not use the power from stereo harness and should get the power directly from battery. Please suggest if it would be ok to use power from the harness.

    The Camry armrest compartment looks like a nice place to setup my PC, but I didn't find a way to get the wires in there. Has anyone used the armrest compartment for carpc? Is there a better way of wiring then drilling holes in it?

    Please forgive me for my stupid questions and Thanks again!

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    I would recommend at least running 10 gauge wire from battery to your power supply positive and negative, maybe use the ignition on wire in your harness for the ignition turn on to the power supply. You most likely will have to drill some holes in that compartment for wires and also think about cooling. If you are worried about destroying that compartment, phone around to wreaking yards and pick up a spare. Hope this helps SNO

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkaush View Post
    Thanks Alawadhi for your suggestions and please pardon the delay!

    I totally agree with having the PC in the boot would look nice, but how about the length of the wires to the dash, could there be a signal drop or other similar issues. I think the HDMI signals can travel through a long cable, but would DVI work in the same manner. Has anyone faced a problem because of the long length of cable.
    HDMI will be fine for the length of your car. I can't speak for DVI, though.

    Also, what about the power button. I could set my PC to start while starting the car, but how about if I have shut it down for some reason and want to start it again while driving. I have five buttons on my steering wheel I guess I could use one of them to start the PC. Has anyone tried this or something similar?
    It's pretty simple to wire a "valet switch" inline with the remote signal line. If you want to power the PC off manually, you can use that power button.
    Also, you can use the Windows SHUTDOWN.EXE command to shut down or restart from within Windoze.


    And what about the power connections, do we connect the entire setup to battery or only use it when the engine is started - the PC I have takes 15 Watt and Display 8 Watt.
    The PSU has the capability to allow ignition to trigger bootup. That's the best scenario.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Thanks SNO & DP!

    The main reason I am think about armrest compartment, over setting it up in the trunk, is because of
    1. Length of the wires (will everything work fine if the length of wires is around 10 feet (including all the devices connected on USB hub))
    2. The PC I have doesn't have ACPI pins to auto power on.

    I think for reason 2, soldering the wires to power switch could do the trick. Should I keep the P1900 close to PC or to Display?

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