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    Cool Thought I'd say hi and get some advice at the same time!

    Hi to all mp3car members,

    Just started putting together a cheap carpc using older spec hardware to see how I get on with it.

    Basic Hardware

    • Intel Atom 330 Dual Core D945GCLF2 mobo
    • 2GB RAM
    • Kingston 64GB SSD
    • PPL-I-150 M2-ATX 160 watt psu
    • LinITX 7" Touchscreen
    • TDA 7850 4x50w Amplifier
    • USB GPS BU-353
    • DAB/FM USB Radio Module


    Software...
    • Windows XP Pro
    • RR


    Was thinking of adding a 2.5" 80GB drive I have spare from a laptop, although not sure if to use the SSD as the main drive and use the 80GB as media/storage?

    Then I need to think about gps and what software to run... Will eventually use it to monitor OBD 1 when/if I finish getting to grips with the protocols on the car etc.
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    Just bought a s/h LinITX 7" touchscreen off the bay, so thats another item!

    gps next I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteA View Post
    Was thinking of adding a 2.5" 80GB drive I have spare from a laptop, although not sure if to use the SSD as the main drive and use the 80GB as media/storage?
    That's what I would do. The SSD will help offset the comparatively slow processing of the Atom CPU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert View Post
    That's what I would do. The SSD will help offset the comparatively slow processing of the Atom CPU.
    Appreciate the reply and advice!

    Will do... Thanks!

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    Yep, use the SSD for the OS/boot and have anything like your media and other content running from the 2.5 hdd.

    - Software wise, well that's best to explore what feels right for you.. to many cons & pros to list
    - GPS, i've had easy success with just a basic USB one from ebay, still running.
    - OBD1/2, i'll be jumping into this myself soon-ish.. Running a Raspberry by myself, so linux based but going try (Serial, USB, Bluetooth)..
    -- Previous never had much success with reading more than a few PID's using a OBD2 connector (2004 Holden LS1 GenIII). so want to try a UART to the BCM/ECU

    FrontEnd / main application will be the first choice unless you wish to run windows/linux without a front end application or create/develop your own
    2004 Holden WL Caprice Auto GENIII
    Base System = Raspberry Pi
    Everything else is pending for now as switched from a Mini-ITX setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhembdm666 View Post
    Yep, use the SSD for the OS/boot and have anything like your media and other content running from the 2.5 hdd.

    - Software wise, well that's best to explore what feels right for you.. to many cons & pros to list
    - GPS, i've had easy success with just a basic USB one from ebay, still running.
    - OBD1/2, i'll be jumping into this myself soon-ish.. Running a Raspberry by myself, so linux based but going try (Serial, USB, Bluetooth)..
    -- Previous never had much success with reading more than a few PID's using a OBD2 connector (2004 Holden LS1 GenIII). so want to try a UART to the BCM/ECU

    FrontEnd / main application will be the first choice unless you wish to run windows/linux without a front end application or create/develop your own
    Will be Windows XP Pro, as I hate the newer options!

    Been researching software and think I'm going to try Road Runner first, see how I get on with it.

    Decided on a Globalsat BU-353...

    Wish I had OBD 2, I'm trying to get to grips with the old Vauxhall/Opel OBD 1 (ALDL)

    Appreciate the reply and info!

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    ALDL is not to bad.. used it many years ago.. best site i found information from was http://www.techedge.com.au/

    Can understand exactly what you mean with going with XP Pro... did the same for many years (disable any boot warning screens so even on a crash it will reboot straight to normal "not safe mode" and yea was always good to me)

    Centrafuse was the front end i ended up using, never did try road runner
    2004 Holden WL Caprice Auto GENIII
    Base System = Raspberry Pi
    Everything else is pending for now as switched from a Mini-ITX setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhembdm666 View Post
    ALDL is not to bad.. used it many years ago.. best site i found information from was http://www.techedge.com.au/

    Can understand exactly what you mean with going with XP Pro... did the same for many years (disable any boot warning screens so even on a crash it will reboot straight to normal "not safe mode" and yea was always good to me)

    Centrafuse was the front end i ended up using, never did try road runner
    Techedge.com is where I've been given new enthusiasm to try and get it working again!

    Centrafuse looks very good, but has setup and leave it type vibe imo, like the idea of getting a FE to do what I want by tweaking it and adding onto it if you get what I mean.

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    Honestly if you want a front end that you can add-on and tweak, you might want to consider building your own for short term testing and perhaps/maybe long term.

    While its not recommended for everyone, considering you are willing to try ALDL/OBD, i'd suggest building a quick app/program using something like Visual Studio Express because its free quick and easy. Also when i was working with ALDL i found this handy to explore the car.

    I downloaded a few pre-made, one from frot techedge somewhere have a COM/BAT/EXE file you can run (windows XP does i think) and it will simply read all the available values or something.. This confirms that you have your link going (easy way to rule out plugins/front-ends/your own code)

    But yea, something like (ewww, Visual Basic) will allow you to access everything you need to prototype and explore..Plus you can build a quick front end in a day or two (settings/music/video/pictures).

    TechEdge page with their own software and some links 160 & 8192

    of course all depends what you wanna do, but i only purchased centrafuse after confirming my setup as working and even then most of the time used my own software (long term developer).
    2004 Holden WL Caprice Auto GENIII
    Base System = Raspberry Pi
    Everything else is pending for now as switched from a Mini-ITX setup

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayhembdm666 View Post
    Honestly if you want a front end that you can add-on and tweak, you might want to consider building your own for short term testing and perhaps/maybe long term.

    While its not recommended for everyone, considering you are willing to try ALDL/OBD, i'd suggest building a quick app/program using something like Visual Studio Express because its free quick and easy. Also when i was working with ALDL i found this handy to explore the car.

    I downloaded a few pre-made, one from frot techedge somewhere have a COM/BAT/EXE file you can run (windows XP does i think) and it will simply read all the available values or something.. This confirms that you have your link going (easy way to rule out plugins/front-ends/your own code)

    But yea, something like (ewww, Visual Basic) will allow you to access everything you need to prototype and explore..Plus you can build a quick front end in a day or two (settings/music/video/pictures).

    TechEdge page with their own software and some links 160 & 8192

    of course all depends what you wanna do, but i only purchased centrafuse after confirming my setup as working and even then most of the time used my own software (long term developer).
    Im going to get the carpc up and running using available software, plugins first, then may try and do my own after that.

    Will try the 2 transistor method for the ALDL to Serial link. (Link)

    Got hold of some sykes/pickavant GM/Opel diagnostic leads so it's just a simple case of chopping the original PS2 style connector off and add a DB9 with transistor circuit.

    Most of the main parts should be here by the weekend so I can start a worklog!
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