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    Planning on putting a carputer in a 90 VW jetta and want to do it right.

    Here is a link to the post with my current list of parts I want to get. Planning on putting a carputer in a 90 VW jetta and want to do it right.

    Thinking of putting a carputer in the car when i get it and want to make sure im getting the right parts. Im hoping for windows 8, bluetooth, wifi and auto on/off(would prefer it to hibernate when ignition off and restart when ignition comes back on) along with a touch screen monitor. i already have a usb gps reciever and program(delorme) and i love it so ill be using it if i can.

    the computer im looking at is http://store.mp3car.com/Morex_Bundle..._p/ccc-204.htm with the following options. Windows 7 home premium, 4gb memory, no keyboard(i have a wireless usb keyboard and mouse to use), fast ship, 320gb laptop grade hd, 802.11 b/g/n wifi, and nano bluetooth adapter. i know i can upgrade windows 7 to 8 so thats not an issue. ill be mounting the computer either under the back seat or on the roof of the trunk unless someone comes up with a better idea.

    the monitor im looking at is http://store.mp3car.com/Preassembled..._p/mon-072.htm the monitor will be in the center console between shifter and dash. i know a ddin stereo will fit where i want to put the monitor so i dont think putting a monitor there should be a problem.

    im pretty good with wiring and have built a few computers in the past. i know ill need to run power to the computer and monitor and the cables between them.

    also i have been entertaining the idea of a dash cam that comes on with the ignition and records to a set size folder on the computer along with connecting the computer to take place of the car stereo, am/fm and cd if its possible.

    Thanks for any advise or input.
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    found e3io and if i can fit their ddin carpc where i want it ill be getting it. has anyone on here used one yet? im looking at the small edition since the less room i need for the computer the better.

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    First post is still an option if this idea doesn't work.

    So i have decided to start my own thread instead of side tracking other peoples threads. so here goes.

    Im buying a 90 VW Jetta soon and want to put a carpc in it when i get it. it may be anywhere from a month to a year before i get around to doing it but i like to plan way ahead.

    first off heres a link to the thread on vwvortex where im planning how to mount it. VWVortex.com - Will a 2din stereo fit in the center console of a gli?

    and heres the specs for the carpc

    this is the one I want
    2DIN Car PC Mini ITX V2 GEN4 (2DIN Car PC Mini ITX V2 GEN4)
    Chassis 2DIN Car PC: 2DIN Car PC Case optimized by E3iO / 7" Samsung Touch Screen with Customizable buttons
    Motherboards: ASRock H81M-ITX LGA 1150 Intel® H81 Support 4th GEN Intel CPUs - Mini ITX Motherboard
    Processor: Intel Pentium G3220 Haswell 3.0GHz LGA 1150 Dual-Core Intel HD Graphics
    Memory: 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333MHz (E3iO Certified Memory) [+$35.00]
    Hard Drive (Master OS): SSD Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA III (Internal SSD) [+$35.00]
    Navigation System: CoPilot Live, North America Maps [+$109.00]
    Steering Wheel Control: No, Thanks
    OBD II Scan Tool: No, Thanks
    Operating System CarPC: Microsoft Windows 8 (32-bit) [+$105.00]
    Warranty: Lifetime Customer Support with 1 Year Parts and Labor Warranty
    Free Shipping - UPS Ground: FREE UPS Ground Service Shipping for United States Only. [Please click on Details]

    Total Cost: $1283

    this one is just incase the above one doesn't work out
    2DIN Car PC M-ITX V2 Small Edition (2DIN Car PC Mini ITX V2 Small Edition)
    Motherboards: Ultrathin Mini-ITX Motherboard Intel® HM67 Express Chipset
    Processor: Intel® Core™ i3-2310M 3M Cache 2.1GHz Intel® HD Graphics 3000
    Memory: 4GB 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM 1066 (E3iO Certified Memory)
    Hard Drive (Master OS): SSD Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA III (Internal SSD) [+$35.00]
    Navigation System: CoPilot Live, North America Maps [+$109.00]
    Steering Wheel Control: No, Thanks
    OBD II Scan Tool: No, Thanks
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (32-bit) [+$105.00]
    Warranty: Lifetime Customer Support with 1 Year Parts and Labor Warranty
    Free Shipping - UPS Ground: FREE UPS Ground Service Shipping for United States Only. [Please click on Details]

    Total Cost: $1388

    Im still looking around for a powered usb hub, external dvd/rw and ssd drives. ill be making the ssd removable so i can hook it up to my computer in the house if i need to. OS and programs will all be on the internal hard drive so the external will have stuff like songs and data logs. i would like to be able to set up the computer to record from a dash cam but im still trying to figure that part out.

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    slight change of plans. its looking like the e3io idea wont work due to not enough back space. so I found www.mo-co-so.com because they have what I want. id prefer as many external antennas as possible.

    heres my parts list so far.

    Screen
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2DIN-IN-DASH...item1c2c4a9474

    PC
    Item Name: Pre Built 2.5Ghz Dual Core i3 2100T Carputer with Wifi
    Item Price: $1,054.92
    Options:
    •Upgrade Processor:No Thanks
    •Upgrade RAM DDR3:None
    •Add Wide Voltage PSU:Standard 6-24v
    •Add Operating System:Windows 7 Pro 32 Bit
    •Centrafuse Auto 4.0:North American Maps
    •GPS Receiver:USB Sirf III 57600 Baud
    •Add USB Optical Drive:Slot Loading DVD R/RW
    •Upgrade Hard Drive:500Gb SATA
    •Extended Warranty:1 Year Extended Warranty

    will be updated to windows 8 as soon as I get it. buying it with windows 7 seemed to be the best idea but if someone gives me a reason to get it with no os and load windows 8 when I get it then Ill do that.


    HD Radio PC Interface
    $39.99

    Directed HD Connect Car Radio
    $74.99

    16mm Low Light Rear View CMOS Camera
    $39.99

    Andrea Super Beam Microphone
    $39.99

    Extended 5m Reset Button and Power LED Harness
    $14.99

    Miniature Class 2 Bluetooth Dongle
    $14.99

    5m/16' Fused Female 6 Pin Power Harness
    $19.99

    know ill need power from battery to pc and monitor and hdmi cable from pc to monitor. car has an amp in the trunk that I can hook pc audio into. anything else ill need to get this all working together. pc will be mounted on the roof of the trunk and all wires ran in sills with the car wiring. the external antennas ill be mounting on top of the parcel shelf so they have the best signal reception. im thinking of putting gps there also unless that should go on the dash. I will be adding dash cam but that will be later on. in the mean time ill just use my cheapo ebay special camera I have been using for years.
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    any ideas on other things ill need besides usb and hdmi extension wires or anything else I should look at?

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    Could i get this moved to the Show off your project forum?

    Got a reply from mo-co-so giving me some great news.


    Hi
    We are releasing new models this week. There will be a new option w/ up to 12 USB ports (mix of 2.0 and 3.0) with the new 1150 4th gen chipset. Regarding Win 8, we will be offering it as an option for the new models. They should be up on the site in the next few days.


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    -----Original Message-----
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    Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:14am
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    Looking at the Pre Built 2.5Ghz Dual Core i3 2100T Carputer with Wifi and have a few questions. is two more usbs possible for a total of 12? also what would be the best way to get windows 8 on it? should I buy it without an os or get it with windows 7 and upgrade when I get it?

    Sent from Windows Mail

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    Hi vwabbitman, belated welcome to MP3car.com. Don't get the i3 2100T as it's an end of life product with only HD 2000 graphics and uses 35W. As an example, with the new generation 4 chips you can get a 15W i5-4250U chip with 4 threads, and has HD 5000 graphics. Much less power and heat, but much better performance, all of what we need for stability in a carpc. There are lots of Gen 4 mobile chips to choose from, all being faster and lower power than a gen 2 chip.

    You can always get Windows cheaper if bought separately, but you will have to load it yourself. I bought windows 7 pro x64 for $65 as a Dell OEM DVD and COA off eBay, and it installed and registered just fine. Windows 8 deals can be found too now that 8.1 is out. As far as front end software, try Driveline first, as it's free, and does everything.

    As far as USB, you can get a 12v usb hub for cars that is enabled when ignition is on, and set the timer to shut down sometime after ignition is shut off. Plug in all the stuff you want to turn on after boot, to speed up the PC boot. Things like WiFi dongle, BT dongle, GPS dongle, HD Radio, etc., placed on this hub will speed up your boot because they turn on in windows instead of in BIOS POST.

    After having an in dash PC on my first carpc build, I found I like to fiddle inside the computer from time to time, and it's not convenient. I found it's easier to just mount the touchscreen, steering wheel interface, USB port, and monitor in the dash, and put the PC in the trunk where upgrades and access is easier. I just made a cable bundle with 16' long USB cables, HDMI cable, radio antenna extension cable, and I ran an 18/4 stranded cable (for reset signal, 12V ignition on signal, ground, and spare) all ty-wrapped in a 5 cable bundle to the trunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rray View Post
    Hi vwabbitman, belated welcome to MP3car.com. Don't get the i3 2100T as it's an end of life product with only HD 2000 graphics and uses 35W. As an example, with the new generation 4 chips you can get a 15W i5-4250U chip with 4 threads, and has HD 5000 graphics. Much less power and heat, but much better performance, all of what we need for stability in a carpc. There are lots of Gen 4 mobile chips to choose from, all being faster and lower power than a gen 2 chip.

    I plan on replacing the one on m list with the new version when its available on mocoso. the one I have on my most recent list has almost everything I want. hdmi, external wifi antennas, 10 usb(my minimum is 6), and rcas.
    You can always get Windows cheaper if bought separately, but you will have to load it yourself. I bought windows 7 pro x64 for $65 as a Dell OEM DVD and COA off eBay, and it installed and registered just fine. Windows 8 deals can be found too now that 8.1 is out. As far as front end software, try Driveline first, as it's free, and does everything.

    since mocoso is going to have windows 8 available ill just get it pre installed. the less I have to do myself the better. I have a trial version of centrafuse on my laptop right now. I like it but when the trial runs out in two weeks ill give driveline a try.

    As far as USB, you can get a 12v usb hub for cars that is enabled when ignition is on, and set the timer to shut down sometime after ignition is shut off. Plug in all the stuff you want to turn on after boot, to speed up the PC boot. Things like WiFi dongle, BT dongle, GPS dongle, HD Radio, etc., placed on this hub will speed up your boot because they turn on in windows instead of in BIOS POST.

    I didn't think of doing that with a hub. my plan is to have screen, dvd drive and maybe two usbs in the center console and the rest on the rear shelf. I might just put everything up front on one and everything on the rear shelf on another if I can.

    After having an in dash PC on my first carpc build, I found I like to fiddle inside the computer from time to time, and it's not convenient. I found it's easier to just mount the touchscreen, steering wheel interface, USB port, and monitor in the dash, and put the PC in the trunk where upgrades and access is easier. I just made a cable bundle with 16' long USB cables, HDMI cable, radio antenna extension cable, and I ran an 18/4 stranded cable (for reset signal, 12V ignition on signal, ground, and spare) all ty-wrapped in a 5 cable bundle to the trunk.

    your thread kinda made me decide to stay away from the in dash ddin setup. im going to be running positive from battery along drivers side sill to computer since the battery is on the drivers side. im thinking of running all my other wires under the center console to the rear seat then going into the trunk on one side or the other. there is an amp in the trunk but I want to run a separate positive for the pc. I may in the future put in a second battery with an isolator.
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    Sounds like you are on the right track, we will be waiting for updates when you get your hardware. As for Driveline, it don't install, it just runs from the folder it unzips into, so you can play with that at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rray View Post
    Sounds like you are on the right track, we will be waiting for updates when you get your hardware. As for Driveline, it don't install, it just runs from the folder it unzips into, so you can play with that at any time.
    I cant wait to get the car and get started on this. im hoping to keep the cost of the computer setup under $2000 but I know how budgets go, I own cars. when I get everything im going to mock it all up out of the car with a new amp(maybe) and speakers(since im removing the in dash stereo and putting all sound production through the computer) just to make sure everything works right before I actually install it in the car. I have a ac-dc wall plug but I don't think it will power the computer setup during testing so I might just use a battery with a high rate charger on it to power the system. with the size of most trunks do I need any kind of air circulation through the trunk besides what the computer has? im contemplating an intake fan on one side of the rear shelf and a exhaust fan on the other side but idk if that's over kill.

    I have been contemplating the idea or a second screen mounted to the truck lid so I can do diagnosing and play with it if I want to from the trunk. along with if I can a usb screen so passengers can control the computer with out needing to be in the front seat or I might even do headrest screens. both would display the same screen as the main in dash screen but would be off unless I want to use them. trunk screen would be either 10" or bigger but no bigger then 15". the others would all be 7".

    carputers are a lot of planning and setup and more planning and changing plans and setup and planning and changing plans. just like anything else in life.

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