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    Hooking up to my head unit/ speakers

    I am really interested in starting a project like this. I have done just about everything I can with my 2 desktops and now its time to downsize Im gonna go with the M1000 probably get an opus just to make sure I do this right. I am gonna build a custom case and room isnt really an issue so I am gonna use a regular 60gb HD and DVD drive. Now here are my 2 questions.
    1)The M1000 comes with TV-out and VGA, which is easier and cheaper to hook up an LCD with? What would you suggest as the cheapest solution with minimal use of inverters/controllers?
    2)My head unit that I have now does not have line-out. I just bought it 2 months ago and dropped 150 on it so I am not very excited about getting a new one. Is there any other way to hook my system up to the speakers?

    thank you

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    Hello!
    Seems to me like theres a lack of people on here willing to help out the N00bs. So as a fellow n00b i thought id try answer ya questions!
    If your LCD is had only composite in then using the TVOUT is the cheeper and Easier option. If you have a VGA lcd then the VGA is the easier option!
    If your head unit has a Tape player you can use one of those CD - Tape Player converters like with a diskman.
    If not you could Use an FM Modulator or FM Transmiter to send the audio to your HU via the Radio. All these options will give you reduced sound quality! I believe the Tape converter would be the best Sound Q wise. FM modualtors can be good if you spend the cash on a good one. But if you buy a cheep *** one then expect a piece of Junk! FM transmitters are generally ****!
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    1. VGA monitors aren't cheap. But if you want good quality, this is the best solution. Ready made screens are available, so you do not need to worry about inverters/controllers. See the LCD forum or Project forum to see what others use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofthedove
    I am really interested in starting a project like this. I have done just about everything I can with my 2 desktops and now its time to downsize Im gonna go with the M1000 probably get an opus just to make sure I do this right. I am gonna build a custom case and room isnt really an issue so I am gonna use a regular 60gb HD and DVD drive. Now here are my 2 questions.
    1)The M1000 comes with TV-out and VGA, which is easier and cheaper to hook up an LCD with? What would you suggest as the cheapest solution with minimal use of inverters/controllers?
    2)My head unit that I have now does not have line-out. I just bought it 2 months ago and dropped 150 on it so I am not very excited about getting a new one. Is there any other way to hook my system up to the speakers?

    thank you
    Theres a few options available, 1stly you say it doesnt have a line out? do you mean line in <Aux>. If you dont have a line in you can splice into the speaker wires and use the existing wiring, I would say splice the other side of the loom ie the stereo side, so you dont cut the loom in the car, then fit an amp in the boot or somwhere and run that to the spliced wires in the HU.


    You could sell your HU on ebay, and buy one with a line in, Kenwood make one that costs around $150.00 and will do the job perfect, I can give you part numbers if you need them.

    I wouldnt go the FM modulator route or the cassete type as the sound will be pretty poor, and as its MP3 you want try and get the best possible sound you can.

    cheapest option is always going to be inverter, I run a 300 watt inverter and have tested it with a laptop, with no problems, or you could get a 12v -12v dc supply and this will also work better but is a little more costly. The inverter is handy for when your away as well, you always have AC power in the car


    LCD and TV out>? you mean VGA and tv out, VGA = standard picture you will see on a monitor on your averdge desktop PC. TV-out is what you would use if you wanted to split the screen and run normal TV's for Divx films etc, the quality is not really suitable for desktop work, but fine for games and movies, and even using somthing like media engine.

    Your best bet would be a VGA screen available in touch and normal, dc customs/Xenarc can supply these and they are more expensive then normal non VGA screens.

    Here is a list of things you will need to get started...

    PC - anything is suitable really but try and keep the psu under 300 watts

    VGA screen - DCcustoms/Xenarc type 700 series

    Amp - for powering the speakers, the amp built into a SB for example is not really powerfull enough and uses different Ohm's

    Cableing - a 5 metere VGA extension cable is a good bet, and also some nice thick 600watt AMP style cable to run to the boot
    also a serial extender maybe needed for the touch part of the screen/USB if using this type

    GPS - a cheap gps reciver and software, should cost no more than $100.00

    Software - Windows is prob the best siftware as you know everything will work with it, if you can get XP thats the best, as its easy to use, but 98 will work as well.

    Hth

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    thanks for the quick replies. Im interested in how you are able to splice the wires for a line IN (sorry said line out before). My new question is: is it possible to run he stereo head-less? I saw someone asking about this before on another forum and figure instead of buying a new headunit with line in I could sell my HU and buy an amp and hook it directly to the PC ( i dont care if this is "cheesecore" as long as it works). I am thinking PC in glove box or maybe just in the open, somewhere I can show off the case ill be making. LCD (non touch) mounted on the dash, slim keyboard on the console, AMP in the back, Windows XP. BTW I drive a 1984 Saab, any other Saabs or old cars?

    EDIT: I found this screen: http://www.dscustoms.com/products/DS700HRS.htm was wondering if anyone has used it. I dont want anything really expensive just enough to load up winamp and this is the cheapest I have found. It also says that it has 2 video inputs but doesnt say what they are (RCA/VGA?) Can anyone tell me what else I would need to hook this up to an M1000?

    thanks again for all the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofthedove
    thanks for the quick replies. Im interested in how you are able to splice the wires for a line IN (sorry said line out before). My new question is: is it possible to run he stereo head-less? I saw someone asking about this before on another forum and figure instead of buying a new headunit with line in I could sell my HU and buy an amp and hook it directly to the PC ( i dont care if this is "cheesecore" as long as it works). I am thinking PC in glove box or maybe just in the open, somewhere I can show off the case ill be making. LCD (non touch) mounted on the dash, slim keyboard on the console, AMP in the back, Windows XP. BTW I drive a 1984 Saab, any other Saabs or old cars?

    EDIT: I found this screen: http://www.dscustoms.com/products/DS700HRS.htm was wondering if anyone has used it. I dont want anything really expensive just enough to load up winamp and this is the cheapest I have found. It also says that it has 2 video inputs but doesnt say what they are (RCA/VGA?) Can anyone tell me what else I would need to hook this up to an M1000?

    thanks again for all the help
    Thats a normal LCD with no VGA input, winamp will show ok on it, but the definition will be bad, you may not see the track details correctly, you have all good stuff, why compromise it by using a non VGA screen?

    See if anyone has a screen for sale in the wanted/for sale part, I got mine from there

    Scraggy drives a Saab turbo, give him a shout.

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    As for NO Aux input, you may look at some car stereo websites. They may have the Aux adapter for your radio. If yours is the aftermarket brand radio(alpine, sony, pioneer), they will have one. From you first post, I assume you have the aftermarket radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ofthedove
    thanks for the quick replies. Im interested in how you are able to splice the wires for a line IN (sorry said line out before). My new question is: is it possible to run he stereo head-less? I saw someone asking about this before on another forum and figure instead of buying a new headunit with line in I could sell my HU and buy an amp and hook it directly to the PC ( i dont care if this is "cheesecore" as long as it works). I am thinking PC in glove box or maybe just in the open, somewhere I can show off the case ill be making. LCD (non touch) mounted on the dash, slim keyboard on the console, AMP in the back, Windows XP. BTW I drive a 1984 Saab, any other Saabs or old cars?

    EDIT: I found this screen: http://www.dscustoms.com/products/DS700HRS.htm was wondering if anyone has used it. I dont want anything really expensive just enough to load up winamp and this is the cheapest I have found. It also says that it has 2 video inputs but doesnt say what they are (RCA/VGA?) Can anyone tell me what else I would need to hook this up to an M1000?

    thanks again for all the help
    Ah, a fellow Saaber.
    I've got an '84/85 T16S.
    My Power Solution is a standard 250watt ATX and Inverter.
    My Screen is a 10.4" Desktop VGA, hacked out of it's case, and fitted into a widened lower centre console. I also managed to fit an Epia Board (M10000), a full sized HDD and Full sized ATX psu, plus assorted cables into the carpetted centre box behind the screen.

    I don't have any Photos ATM, but with the Inverter under the rear seat, and the AC power lead running under the passenger seat ic an get power for the PC, the Screen and the External USB2 DVD drive that pokes out under the rear seats. the fibreglassing for the screen isn't perfect by a long way. But it works.
    I have 10.4" VGA touch control (upsets the Beemer and Porsche owners at work with their composite 7" DVD control screens no end).

    Audio to the headunit is currently through an FM modulator. It is lousy. Loads of FM hiss. But you really only hear it with the engine running, when you are between songs. Planning on looking for a decent headunit that can take an AUX input adaptor soon.

    Switching on and off is handled quite cleverly. I have wired a relay to the antenna remote that switches on/off the DC power to the inverter when the headunit is switched on.

    To shut down the PC, I set it to Hibernate, then when it powers down, switch off the headunit.
    To start the PC, switch on the headunit, that applies power to the inverter. The Motherboard bios is set to "Resume on Power". So the PC boots when ever the PSU gets power. All works very quickly (probably about 20 seconds till up or down) and gives plenty of time for the Turbo to spin down at idle.

    Keyboard is a Logitech Wireless office.
    GPS is a Deluo USB, with Mappoint Europe, and AGPS for voice directions and routing.
    I use the onboard sound.
    I have a track ball in the car, but it isn't connected as I use the touchscreen.

    Hope this helps.
    4x4 in a turbo stylee.

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