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    Umm... Checked with some people in the know, and I need to retract my previous statement. I was surprised to learn that mjp and Walleye were completely correct in their declaration that the XBox DOES INDEED run a Celery 700mhz! Why that works, I have no idea, as previous experience says "no way idiot" (read my previous posts), but there it is. It's so trim and specialized that it apparently can get away with it scott-free. It gives me some crazy ideas about building my own XBox of sorts, but I think I will finish the carPC project first.

    Frodo, I STILL think you're on crack about the PIII Celeron thing. Wanna trade for some Columbian Special Blend?
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    well its not really hard at all to understand if the XBOX is indeed running a celeron chip or full Pentium. When your talking about console games its a whole different ballgame than with regular pc games. Console games are written and fine tuned to run on that specific hardware and squeeze every ounce of juice out of it (at least they try, as time goes on programers learn the hardware better to squeeze out more juice, perfect example is first gen playstation2 games vs current playstation2 games). PC games cant do that because there are way too many hardware configs and you cant code to support everything or max out everything cause everyone doesnt have a P4.

    The processor in the XBOX dosent handle graphics tasks much anyway, the GPU does and its a geforce3.5 level card I say 3.5 because it has more features than a retail gf3 but not equal to a gf4 card. The processor handles AI and non graphics chores. In practice you can use it for whatever you want it to do in your engine, but that would be dumb and your game would probably run like crap.

    Halo runs like crap on the PC because it was ported to the PC in X months and rushed out the door with little or no time for optimizeing. This is a fact. The other main reason is because they had to support i believe at least geforce2 level card. This may have changed but this is what it was originaly. So a lot of things may have had to be done using software where before it was using hardware. The xbox does not run games at 320x200 it runs them at fullframe NTSC spec and it also has support to run games at HD resolutions, and its not faking it. You can also run xbox game at regular pc resolutions.

    weather or not the xbox has a celeron chip or full pentium, im not sure. I wouldnt doubt either. But i think it may be a celeron chip, cant really remember right now. But i can have a concrete answer about this when i get in to work tomorrow.

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    well i just asked our head programmer here, and he says its a full PIII 700MHz.

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    It is kind of half-way between a Celeron and a fully fledged P3.

    It runs on a 133MHz FSB like the P3, but has less L2 cache than the P3 (only 128k or 256k IIRC)

    It's neither one nor the other to be totally honest and true :P

    Plus, the games are written for that hardware only, and for that grapics card only, so therefore they can be optimised

    Although the Xbox and the PC share very similar hardware, they are totally different beasts, and so is the OS and games that they run


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    so via emulation software in linux, it's easily possible to run GPS software like Routis and all the other windows based software?
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    in a nut shell yes.

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    ok i am so confused now (LOL)
    so can i build a pc to use my xbox and ps2 games or not?

    if so can somebody build me one and how much would it be...









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    wow~ how did asking about emullator ended with "what an xbox runs" but i hear and it was ven in the news that the xbox could be hack and turn into an inexpensive pc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTRMEASURES
    ok i am so confused now (LOL)
    so can i build a pc to use my xbox and ps2 games or not?

    if so can somebody build me one and how much would it be...
    Basically, no. Whilst there may well be Xbox/PS2 emulators for PC's out there anybody that tried to play a game using one is likely to be very disappointed. If you really need to play XBox games in your car buy and modify an xbox to fit the car - then with the right xbox mods you can do all sorts of great things with it - play emulators (MAME, SNES, NES, etc.) and watch DivX/xvid/svcd/vcd/DVD films on it. Of course if you live in the US it is probably illegal to modify an xbox you own and that you bought with your own money (please correct me if I am wrong on this).

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    thanks...
    i have an xbox already that i was going to put in my car with my audio system install.
    i was just hopeing to put a pc in there, and maybe be able to play both xbox and ps2 game's.









    thanks again guys
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