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    using old laptop and jornada for puter, newbie idiot needs comments

    just looking to replace radio in car, perhaps later vid
    -parts i have
    p1 notebook w/ fried hd
    jornada 680 bad batt
    160 gb hd
    -plan
    jornada touch sceen, is single din, use screen
    laptop, get dodking station use as carputer
    hd get adapter remove cd rom for space
    amp wire up
    eq 1/2 din w/ gain controls
    switch wired into keyless entry via the relay for boot time
    wifi to home
    fm tuner
    -problems
    how to get drivers of jornada & conv to op sys?
    how to adapt connecters of jornada?
    have an adapter to go the other way on drives (lap hd to desk comp), will it work in reverse?
    laptop wont boot cuz hd fried, what os to run? its a 133/ 32ram. is it pos to get another copy of 95 from microsoft since thats what it had?
    how to get fm tuner in laptop?
    is it possible to do w/o laptop? (yes i've searched)
    there's more...


    trying to keep this as inexpensive as possible. i know its going to be 3 times more than any estimate, just want to keep the muiltipler down
    my experience is no programing or building experience, i do have ample electronics skills though.

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    ok, I really dont think the laptop has enough power to decode mp3's and cert wont be able to do divx. As for converting the pda screen to your laptop, this I think would be very complexed. As for wiring up a big harddrive to a laptop, yeah this can be done, there are loads of caddys out there, the main problem is that you will need to find a stable 12 volts, as the little drives run off 5 volts.

    I have now gone from a installed PC, to a installed laptop.. doing this has solved loads of power issues I had, and its quite cheap also.. I managed to pick up a dell c610 (PIII 1000) for 200, this has a damaged screen, well when I say damaged its got a couple of finger marks on the screen.. pressure marks. I managed to get a docking station for it, for 20, and I added a couple of relays to this, it turns the laptop on as soon as power is connected, and the laptop is set to hibernate after 10 mins from running on battery. Its linked to the lilliput at the front and works like a dream.. For money, I think the laptop route is cheaper than the PC route, as you really need to buy a opus psu otherwise, you will have problems with power. They cost 150 alone. I bought a 12v DC-DC for 20 that powers the laptop no probs. As its got a installed battery already then it stays on when i'm filling up for GAS and cranking.

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    i cant use a 12 -12 for the drive? i would ike to do the pda screen, cuz its perfect single din size. i don't have any more space in the dash. also its free. even using a winamp type player i cant play divx or pos even mp3? why can some of the new pdas do it, a lite version? what for os? when you say the hd can be adapted, is that external w/usb? i was planning on internal with the batt or cd rom out i have space internmally to save space.

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    for the hard drive, you could grab yourself one of these


    then get a pin to pin converter that will change the gender on the end, this will plug into the h/dive adapter on the laptop.

    Also on such a old laptop, the bios might not support large harddrives, I would checkout this first. I cant help you out on the pda screen, as for them playing mp3's thats true, but they are running at 266+ mhz now.

    As for OS, I would prob try something like win98se, It maybe worth trying to get the memory in it above 128mb as well.

    1st things first.. Try getting the laptop running, just to test if it will play mp3's if it dont then you might save yourself loads of time. If your in the uk, I can send you a very old 1gig laptop drive, this would do to test it.

    cheers

    Steve

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    thanks for the help. i hope it works, i had a friend whos a computer guru look at it when it failed, they said it was the drive, but the mb's are known to go also. i would test it right now just dont know how to boot it. oh well if it doesn't i'll just buy a tablet, and call it a day. i do want the single din though. thanks again.

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    if it has a floppy on it, you could make a bootable disk, just to see if it boots up.

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    lost the external floppy years ago, has slots for cf, i have a cf, but not on my desktop? could transfer though the hp but sync not here yet. its a same i cant get the hp (jornada) to recognize the hd, its got the same specs (better mem 84mb) as my laptop, and also has two card slots, just the driver wont work w/ ce (tried it on my 570). would simplify the install, just wouldn't let me megasquirt later(car stuff)
    i have the hd adapter like that coming. thanks for offering advice, this dumb a@#(me) appreciates it.

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    My .02 cents - Building a laptop setup

    Well since I am a computer tech, I have a lot of older equipment at my disposal, at no charge, so I too decided putting together a system using my free equipment. I have gone thorugh 3 iterations so far, and here are the results. I have a Toshiba portege 650 - 133mhz 80mb ram, laptop, a IBM 380 - P150MMX, 32MB RAM laptop and a Toshiba Portege 7010 - PII 300Mhz, 160MB RAM w/ DVD docking. I also have a Ipaq 3830 PPC. First off, I can decode MP3's on all of these systems with no problems. On the 650 I used WIN98SE -Lite, on the IBM, Windows 98 and 2000, and on the 7010 2000 and XP. I can also run DVD on all 3 systems with excellent playback. On the 650 and the IBM, I have a Margi DVD-decoder card and an EXP PCMCIA DVD drive. Using the software MARGI provides, DVD's play flawlessly. The Toshiba 7010 has a DVD dock that has a built-in hardware decoder. Under 2000 using the dvdplay.exe built into W2k works fine. In XP DVD's play flawlessly using Media Player 9.0. The issues that I ran into are as follows. The 2 older machines will not allow for any HD over 6 Gig, which isn't enough for my MP3's. Addtionally, the older laptops have no USB connections, and for loading GPS software, they are extremely slow. Also the LCD on the IBM is only DSTN. In all cases I have not even come close to finding a way to use the IPAQ to control the laptop, without serious performance issues. I too would like to use the IPAQ as it would intergrate in my dash very well, but it just won't work. In the end I decided on using the Portege 7010 W/ DVD. Since I have a SUV (DODGE DURANGO), I have a little more room to with, so I ripped the screen off the hinges , remove the internal kybd, and placed the LCD flat on the laptop, so know it looks like a tablet/pen pc. I will then enclose it all in either a wood or aluminum case. This way I will have a PII-300MHZ, w/ 160MB RAM, a 40Gig HD, 2 serial, 2 USB, and 2 PCMCIA ports for expansion. I am running Media Car and Media Engine (trying to decide), and using a 12V DC-DC adapter to power it. In addtion, the docking station has a TV-out port, that I have used a y splitter to connect to 2 5" composite LCD's for DVD veiwng olny for my rear seat passengers. It also has a built in 100M Ethernet connection, so that when I pull in my garage, I can connect it to my network. I have a Sprint PCS cell phone, that I can connect to the Internet, albeit at 19,200. Over all my point is this, you can use a laptop in some creative ways but probably not with the Jordana. Good luck with your setup and let me know if you find a "stable" way to utilize the Jordana to control your setup.

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    berniejr , that made excellent reading m8 :-) sounds like you have have battled your way to get where you are .. I found on my dell laptop that I had to use a usb powered hub, otherwise it wouldnt reach my touchscreen down the 5m cable, although.. when I say powered, all i've done is taken the 5v supply from the ps2 port on the docking station to the power socket of the hub, so its sort of self powered. With a combination of relays it now auto powers on. I have also fitted a wifi card, this means I can now remote in from my warm home to work on it. Just wish I had some decent gps software on it now to complete my project.. I still use my tomtom and ipaq for that..

    CdR

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    whoa! lots of info!! i understood about 96%, good explaining (to a guy who's only half here!)
    i understand i might not be able to use the hp for much, but i would like to use the display.
    my laptop is the ibm you mentioned, that stinks, nothing over 6gb. is there anything at all i can do to change that (ie adapt an ide conmtroller card, software etc..)
    out of curiuosity i went to tigerdirect, a basic desktop to my needs will be 550, w/o the 12-12/5 or controller, ouch.
    its also alot of space.
    maybe i'll get luck w/ ebay and a laptop w/ a broken screen.
    where did you get the windows lite?

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