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  1. #11
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    Well for starters your 32bit pci card is still 16bit output just an FYI.

    Also the setup I am doing is very inexpensive
    computer-free
    irman-$35us
    lcd $20us
    inverter-free
    power cable (10 guage 20')-$20
    rca cable-$7
    rca y-adapter for the output jack on snd card-$7
    serial cable 10'-$20
    removable hdd bay-$20ea
    those are the only parts that I need.

    Yep all my friends have removable HDD bays, so if I got to thier house, I can load the caddy up and put their mp3s on it, say if were goin on a trip or something, or if they have stuff I like.

    My system boot was 40s with 16mb ram, I just upgraded it to 32, so maybe that will help, but the memory cound time could slow it



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    Just a note on Ethernet cards and cables... You could easily get a 25 foot or 50 foot ethernet cable for $30 here in the US or mail order. In addition, 100BT cards are cheap as hell now. If you get a high quality cable, you can get 4,500Kb/s (that's what I get on my LAN). That's more than adequate speed.

    On the other hand, if your computer is not near your garage and you don't want to take it out of the car that's a different story...

    Just wanted to defend Ethernet

  3. #13
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    first of all the thread was started with "my tips for beginners" but then you said "...I know whats best for my system". whats best for your system isnt best for everyone elses system. their car is different. the availiblity of equipment is different. what each individual likes is different.

    as far as a tape deck adapter i fail to see a problem .. what if im using my laptop sitting in the seat beside me? why would i want to wire in a head unit or run into aux inputs from a laptop that doesnt stay in the car for extended periods?

    whats wrong with ethernet? if you go with 100base then the transfer rate might be faster than if you had each harddrive in the same box. i fail to see a problem with the transfer rate of 10base .. with 10 base i can connect my laptop to it and play with settings without needing to connect a monitor. the system im constructing will have both a network card as well as a removable hard drive (if i can find the stuff to do so cheap).

    cheesecore to wire the mp3box into the amp? give me a break .. its no more cheese core as wiring a cd player into an amp (provided you have a way of control volume on the mp3box).

    only to "replace a cd changer"? thats not what mine is for. the one im working on now is the first prototype for a more advanced setup later. i dont want the functionallity of a cd changer i want more than that (such as being able to call up a specific genre or artist or album etc...) so meer cd changer functionallity would do me no good. also sometime later i might add the option for dvd playback in the car or for attaching a psx to the system (no not while i drive down the road). my view is its a ocmputer .. take advantage of what it can do and dont limit it to what something else does.

    as far as audio quality from a 16 bit sound card ... mp3s are NOT cd quality audio .. if they were then maybe that would be an issue but they are NOT.

    professional? give me a break. im building a a box for ME not for anyone else. the bulk of the equipment will be out of site anyway. another issue is cost. perhaps the person doesnt have the funds to do custom everything and make it look top notch professional. does that mean that their design is less functional than anyone elses? no. does that mean it plays mp3s any worse than the next one? not likely or not significantly. its personal choice 100%

    what the hell does a claim of nt booting in 3 seconds have to do with anything? it doesnt apply. if someone claims that nt boots in 3 seconds then its obviously a false claim. i fail to see how bringing that up adds anything to this thread.

  4. #14
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    Well If your so interested in having a 'professional' system and not a 'ghetto' or 'home grown' setup why are you using in inverter. No 'profesional' setup would come with a power system that starts a t 12 volts goes to 110 and then back to 12...hardly prefesional, even sounds sorta 'home grown' to me. And why is it that your so intent on saying that anyones system that doesnt mimic a cd-changer (only with higher capacity) is so inferior to yours? I'm building my system right now but I decided a long time ago that i didnt want something that operated like a cd-changer. And its been said in this thread before but, your putting a computer in your car, why not use that to the fullest?

    And on another note. All your friends my have Hard Drive caddys but what in the hell ever gave you the idea that everybody else and all there friends all over the world do???

  5. #15
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    Incase everyone has forgotten I started this thread as a place for tips for beginners.

    My tips still hold true.
    Buy a deck with Aux Inputs.
    Don't Use a tape adapter.
    Use a removable hard drive bay.
    Try to examine how a cd changer would integrate.
    The use of an inverter is fine, and a dc-dc is good if you have the money or know how to design one.
    And use your computer for anything else you wish, such as integrating DVD and an LCD.
    Use it to play VCDS, or add a GPS unit.

    Things that are ghetto and *** are hooking your snd card output to your amp.

    And if people want to do it differently thats thier choice, and necissairly the wrong choice.

    Yep and there you have it.


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    My tip how to get ~$250 system playing 200+ CD with IR full control with same space requirements as most of current MP3 players that people are building in their cars.
    And you dont need any additional PC !


    Buy any normal 200+ CD player and inverter, plug them in your trunk and connect with your current car audio sytem.
    This is no rocket science, anyway.




  7. #17
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    hahahahahahaha
    good try but a 200 cd changer would cost you well over $1000

    hell a 6 cd changer is $600

    its funny how there are so many stupid people who just don't have a clue. I won't name any names, but man, we need to get less of the aol types.

  8. #18
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    If anyone has any other problems understanding what the whole foundataion of an mp3 system is all about I drew up some System Analyst diagrams at
    http://mp3toy.mp3car.com/mp3system/mp3system.htm
    Enjoy.

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    "its funny how there are so many stupid people who just don't have a clue. I won't name any names, but man, we need to get less of the aol types."

    3 words: pot, kettle, black


  10. #20
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    Hmmm it seems that some people have a fundamental problem with reading and understanding. This seems to be a common problem that arises when users try to get involved with designing things, another example of how things in this world can go so wrong. oh well enough time spend, my diagrams are there and all the information you could ever need are in the dialogues above. Enjoy

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