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    Build my PC?

    I need someone to build my PC for me. When I mean build, I mean, give me a list of each part, not actually build the thing for me. I've learned how to build a PC (and by build, I mean put together piece by piece) but I've never got the hang of compatibility issues. I don't know the difference between socket A or other Chips. basically, I want someone to tell me what goes together for the type of car PC I'm looking for. I want the specs to be as follows:

    small case
    doesn't have to be the best: motherboard or chip
    at least 512MB ram
    at least 80Gigs hard drive (Regular size, not 2.5")
    a good DVD drive, I don't think I'll be burning in my car.
    I want both VGA and S-Video out. I want to be able to use the touch screen feature for the front of the car, and 2 seperate screens in the back showing something different. I know 2 different video cards are needed, but if the motherboard already comes with one, just getting another is all I think I would need.
    a sound card with RCA jacks output.
    GPS
    maybe a nice camera would be ok, but I can find that myself.
    a tv tuner-gotta have!
    startup/shutdown power supply
    a usb hub. for added accessories.

    someone, build me a list of compatible items that meet my criterias? (PRICE IS AN ISSUE, SO KEEP IT AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. I STILL HAVE TO SPEND 400 on screens!)

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    Check the "Show off your project" thread. People list their specs there along with plenty of pictures, so just find a setup you like and emulate it. The worklog subthread has plenty of that too. Otherwise....search around for it. Noone can tell you what to use in your project. It's your decision.

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    Ok, I know it really sucks when you ask an in depth quesiton and people just refer you to other forums and stuff and tell you to figure it out yourself, so I'll be a little nicer and head you in the right direction. I've built a few computers myself, all being successful, and am currently building one for my car. So, using what I've learned, especially in the way of compatibility, I'll do my best. First of all, I'd like to first refer you to a GREAT computer parts shopping site. They have great prices, outstanding customer service, and a terrific selection. I buy all my parts from them. It's www.newegg.com. Now, wanting a small case won't really be a problem. You can get what is called a microATX mini-tower. It's is about as small as they come while keeping a good amount of functionality and keep the install rather simple. You just have to make sure that the motherboard that you get will fit into it, so you will most likely have to get a miniATX size motherboard. Other issues when finding a motherboard are video and audio. Since you are using it in your car, I'd recommend getting a seperate video card and a seperate audio card since onboard audio and video are never that great anyway. This way you can get a cheaper motherboard and spend that saved money on better quality sound and video by getting sperate cards. Also make sure that you get a motherboard with an AGP slot so that you can get an AGP video card to fit in there. Audio comes as PCI cards, and all motherboards have PCI slots, so that's not an issue. Now, wanting multiple monitors is not something that multiple video cards can solve. As a matter of fact, I don't think you'll have much luck finding a motherboard with multiple AGP slots in it(you can also use PCI express, but it's more expensive and not needed in this type of install). And if you are thinking that you can use onboard video and the video card at the same time, sorry, but it's not going to happen. When you use a video card you are telling the motherboard to depend solely on the video card for video reproduction. On a better note, you can get video cards with multiple outputs, like VGA and S-Video all in one card for very cheap. Which is exactly what you want. Hooray! The only downside to using both video outputs from the card at the same time is it compromises performace for two outputs, so the video quality might not be as good as it could be. If you want to display something different between the touchscreen monitor and the other two monitors, that would probably be your best option. However, if you want to display the same thing on all of them, I may recommend getting some sort of video signal amplifier and splitter so you can use just one video output from your video card. It's your choice. If you get a decent video card(around $200) it shouldn't be much of a problem. As for the audio card, I'm guessing that you want the RCA outputs so you can hook up to an amplifier. Soundblaster has a few cards that have RCA outputs but they are placed in an extra 5.25" drive bay in the fron of the computer and the card setup will cost around $200. To save money, you can get a good sounding card for around $70 with a simple mini-jack(included in almost every sound card) in the back and then just go to radio shack and get a min-jack to RCA adapter for a couple bucks. It'll save you $100 and you wont lose any noticable audio quality. I've done this myself and it works great.
    GPS: I've only used one GPS receiver before and it uses a PS/2 port for power and a serial port for the interface and it works good for me. I know most now use USB which seems to work well with the newer software, but I've had little experience with it so I can't offer much help there.
    TV Tuner: For a TV tuner you can get a PCI tuner card which slides in the motherboard just like the sound card and is easy and everything is wonderful. Or you can get an all-in-one video/tv tuner card. Radeon makes what they call All-In-Wonder model cards which are preciesely this. My friends have used them, specifically the AIW9600-XT card. You can get it for around $180 and it will do everything you want. The all in one cards are usually a better idea since you wont run into compatibility issues between the tuner card and video card which sometimes happens even when it's not supposed to. It can happen to the best of us, so I highly recommend the AIW cards.
    USB Hub: For me, I have 8 USB ports that came with the motherboard, so I've never run out of room to plug in extra things. I've never actually used a hub simply because I've never had to, I think getting a motherboard with at least 4, even better 6 or 8 USB ports is a good idea.
    RAM: ram is getting cheaper these days, so getting 512 Mb shouldn't cost more than $70 for the value ram. You shouldn't need anything much more than that unless you plan on running many programs at once. I've only got 384 Mb in mine, and I'm doing fine. I'd just be sure to get PC-3200 RAM if possible, that way you can make the most out of your FSB which will allow for greater performance of your computer.
    Hard Drive: Hard drives most commonly come in two interface formats, IDE and SATA. SATA is faster and is nice when loading large applications. It can cause your operating system to boot up faster and get you on your way, however, you have to make sure that your motherboard has SATA slots on the motherboard or you are out of luck. Having SATA will cause the drive and motherboard to cost more. Personally, in this type of application, I don't believe that SATA will help much since it's not going to be a very high end machine. So going with IDE will be your best option and will keep cost down. Almost every motherboard has IDE and therefore compatibility wont be a problem. Just make sure you get a 3.5" IDE drive.
    DVD Drive: The same thing goes for the DVD drive. Most common drives use IDE interface, so don't worry about anything else. Just get a normal DVD drive and hook it up. It's almost flawless, you shouldn't have any issues with it. As for brand names, I've gotten the a few different ones and havn't had problems with any of them. I've bought many cheap ones and havn't been dissappointed, so don't blow any extra money that you don't have to.
    Motherboard/Chipset: As for motherboard brands, I've used a few. Biostar, DFI, and Asus. Asus is known for their great stability and I'd recommend them if you can get one for a relatively cheap price. They are not usually overpriced and you should be happy with how well it runs. The Biostar board that I used worked good after soving a few small issues. I never had any large problems with it, but it was a little glitchy for the first few days when I was installing programs and the OS. Now it works fine and is very stable. My DFI board I payed $170 for and is used for my gaming computer. So don't blow your money on DFI for what you want. They make awesome boards for those of us that like to tweak things around. You'll find that there are money other brands out there that have low prices. I'd recommend going to www.newegg.com and browsing the motherboards and reading the customer reviews on them. You can get a very good idea on how well they perform and what problems there are from the people that have bought the item before. I use it a lot and it has been a good guide for buying parts.
    Processor: I've used a few different ones, Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium IV, and AMD Athlon XP. The socket on a motherboard is specific to the model of processor you get. Socket A corresponds to Athlon XP processors, socket 478 corresponds to some Pentium IV processors(some others take socket 775). You'll see this as you shop around. If you have a low budget, you can get a Celeron processor or other low end chip(AMD makes a few now too), but then don't bother getting the decent motherboard or PC-3200 RAM since the processors are usually limited to a low FSB speed. If you go with the Athlon XP, Pentium IV, Athlon 64, ... then you will be able to use the higher FSB speeds and will notice a good increase in performance. You can price the differences, but I will say, I don't build Celeron computers anymore just because you really end up cheating yourself out of good processor speed when you have a really slow FSB.

    Since I've rambled on for quite some time now and bored you to death, I'll drop the subject and let you get back to wondering what the hell you should do. If you have some more specific questions about certain things be sure to post them.

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    Nice answer but I couldn't make myself read it. Try this in the future.

    Just kidding with you - it was nice of you to answer the question. I was watching to see if anyone would take up the challenge or just toss out a search.
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    I was gung ho on building a PC [until] just recently. However, between my new phone having internet and GPS and all...and this kit...Im starting to have trouble justfiying it haha.
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    Sounds more like a computer for a house, Not a car. I think for a car, The more on the board the better. They have micro boards with dual video out and 5.1 or better onboard sound. This keeps things small and saves on power issues later on.

    as far as cases go, Go to ebay and search for mini case or micro case, throw in ATX or ITX to narrow the searh, You can pic up super small cases for under 25 bucks shipped. Or you can go out and get a shoe box, stuff some parts in it and call it a case. A case can be made out of anything.

    But like QnoisX said, No one can tell you what to use. It's gotta be up to you, and your resources and what you can find. especialy if you're on a budget.

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    If you really have no idea what kind of computer to go with you might consider something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16856101421. It's a Shuttle so the case is alot smaller than any microATX setup and the integrated graphics and sound should be plenty for your needs. It has standard VGA out for the main touchscreen in the front and RCA out which you could split off and use for the two rear screens. You could still add a video card if you must....I think ATI even allows you to use the integrated graphics with another one of their AGP cards. You could add a tv tuner to the pci slot. The ram, harddrive, and dvd drive should be standard stuff if you've ever built a computer before. I believe Opus makes a version of their power supply for Shuttles. Anyways, that should get you started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvwjettaiii
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    Ok, I know it really sucks when you ask an in depth quesiton and people just refer you to other forums and stuff and tell you to figure it out yourself, so I'll be a little nicer and head you in the right direction. I've built a few computers myself, all being successful, and am currently building one for my car. So, using what I've learned, especially in the way of compatibility, I'll do my best. First of all, I'd like to first refer you to a GREAT computer parts shopping site. They have great prices, outstanding customer service, and a terrific selection. I buy all my parts from them. It's www.newegg.com. Now, wanting a small case won't really be a problem. You can get what is called a microATX mini-tower. It's is about as small as they come while keeping a good amount of functionality and keep the install rather simple. You just have to make sure that the motherboard that you get will fit into it, so you will most likely have to get a miniATX size motherboard. Other issues when finding a motherboard are video and audio. Since you are using it in your car, I'd recommend getting a seperate video card and a seperate audio card since onboard audio and video are never that great anyway. This way you can get a cheaper motherboard and spend that saved money on better quality sound and video by getting sperate cards. Also make sure that you get a motherboard with an AGP slot so that you can get an AGP video card to fit in there. Audio comes as PCI cards, and all motherboards have PCI slots, so that's not an issue. Now, wanting multiple monitors is not something that multiple video cards can solve. As a matter of fact, I don't think you'll have much luck finding a motherboard with multiple AGP slots in it(you can also use PCI express, but it's more expensive and not needed in this type of install). And if you are thinking that you can use onboard video and the video card at the same time, sorry, but it's not going to happen. When you use a video card you are telling the motherboard to depend solely on the video card for video reproduction. On a better note, you can get video cards with multiple outputs, like VGA and S-Video all in one card for very cheap. Which is exactly what you want. Hooray! The only downside to using both video outputs from the card at the same time is it compromises performace for two outputs, so the video quality might not be as good as it could be. If you want to display something different between the touchscreen monitor and the other two monitors, that would probably be your best option. However, if you want to display the same thing on all of them, I may recommend getting some sort of video signal amplifier and splitter so you can use just one video output from your video card. It's your choice. If you get a decent video card(around $200) it shouldn't be much of a problem. As for the audio card, I'm guessing that you want the RCA outputs so you can hook up to an amplifier. Soundblaster has a few cards that have RCA outputs but they are placed in an extra 5.25" drive bay in the fron of the computer and the card setup will cost around $200. To save money, you can get a good sounding card for around $70 with a simple mini-jack(included in almost every sound card) in the back and then just go to radio shack and get a min-jack to RCA adapter for a couple bucks. It'll save you $100 and you wont lose any noticable audio quality. I've done this myself and it works great.
    GPS: I've only used one GPS receiver before and it uses a PS/2 port for power and a serial port for the interface and it works good for me. I know most now use USB which seems to work well with the newer software, but I've had little experience with it so I can't offer much help there.
    TV Tuner: For a TV tuner you can get a PCI tuner card which slides in the motherboard just like the sound card and is easy and everything is wonderful. Or you can get an all-in-one video/tv tuner card. Radeon makes what they call All-In-Wonder model cards which are preciesely this. My friends have used them, specifically the AIW9600-XT card. You can get it for around $180 and it will do everything you want. The all in one cards are usually a better idea since you wont run into compatibility issues between the tuner card and video card which sometimes happens even when it's not supposed to. It can happen to the best of us, so I highly recommend the AIW cards.
    USB Hub: For me, I have 8 USB ports that came with the motherboard, so I've never run out of room to plug in extra things. I've never actually used a hub simply because I've never had to, I think getting a motherboard with at least 4, even better 6 or 8 USB ports is a good idea.
    RAM: ram is getting cheaper these days, so getting 512 Mb shouldn't cost more than $70 for the value ram. You shouldn't need anything much more than that unless you plan on running many programs at once. I've only got 384 Mb in mine, and I'm doing fine. I'd just be sure to get PC-3200 RAM if possible, that way you can make the most out of your FSB which will allow for greater performance of your computer.
    Hard Drive: Hard drives most commonly come in two interface formats, IDE and SATA. SATA is faster and is nice when loading large applications. It can cause your operating system to boot up faster and get you on your way, however, you have to make sure that your motherboard has SATA slots on the motherboard or you are out of luck. Having SATA will cause the drive and motherboard to cost more. Personally, in this type of application, I don't believe that SATA will help much since it's not going to be a very high end machine. So going with IDE will be your best option and will keep cost down. Almost every motherboard has IDE and therefore compatibility wont be a problem. Just make sure you get a 3.5" IDE drive.
    DVD Drive: The same thing goes for the DVD drive. Most common drives use IDE interface, so don't worry about anything else. Just get a normal DVD drive and hook it up. It's almost flawless, you shouldn't have any issues with it. As for brand names, I've gotten the a few different ones and havn't had problems with any of them. I've bought many cheap ones and havn't been dissappointed, so don't blow any extra money that you don't have to.
    Motherboard/Chipset: As for motherboard brands, I've used a few. Biostar, DFI, and Asus. Asus is known for their great stability and I'd recommend them if you can get one for a relatively cheap price. They are not usually overpriced and you should be happy with how well it runs. The Biostar board that I used worked good after soving a few small issues. I never had any large problems with it, but it was a little glitchy for the first few days when I was installing programs and the OS. Now it works fine and is very stable. My DFI board I payed $170 for and is used for my gaming computer. So don't blow your money on DFI for what you want. They make awesome boards for those of us that like to tweak things around. You'll find that there are money other brands out there that have low prices. I'd recommend going to www.newegg.com and browsing the motherboards and reading the customer reviews on them. You can get a very good idea on how well they perform and what problems there are from the people that have bought the item before. I use it a lot and it has been a good guide for buying parts.
    Processor: I've used a few different ones, Intel Celeron, Intel Pentium IV, and AMD Athlon XP. The socket on a motherboard is specific to the model of processor you get. Socket A corresponds to Athlon XP processors, socket 478 corresponds to some Pentium IV processors(some others take socket 775). You'll see this as you shop around. If you have a low budget, you can get a Celeron processor or other low end chip(AMD makes a few now too), but then don't bother getting the decent motherboard or PC-3200 RAM since the processors are usually limited to a low FSB speed. If you go with the Athlon XP, Pentium IV, Athlon 64, ... then you will be able to use the higher FSB speeds and will notice a good increase in performance. You can price the differences, but I will say, I don't build Celeron computers anymore just because you really end up cheating yourself out of good processor speed when you have a really slow FSB.

    Since I've rambled on for quite some time now and bored you to death, I'll drop the subject and let you get back to wondering what the hell you should do. If you have some more specific questions about certain things be sure to post them.
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    WOW! That is like THE BEST response anyone could ever give me. I have been checking out newegg.com and looking for different configurations to build a PC. but Price is sort of an issue. I mean, I don't want to spend thousands, but I know that a project like this will depend on some good $ to get up off the ground, so I'm not worried about that. But, you pretty much explained the compatability issues I was wondering about, and I printed that to really go online and search and find the best setup for me. I'm going to be installing it into a 1997 Chev. S-10 Blazer. So I'll be connecting it to 2 amps and a subwoofer, along with 6 speakers. (I've got my MECP and I know car audio, so that's why i'm wondering about the whole computer step-up) I will be fiberglassing an enclosure for all items, the computer, the sub, and the 2 amps (1 amp for the 6 speaker setup, and the other amp for the sub) the fiberglass will make it all look flush, and will be bolted down to the car, so if someone did end up stealing it, the insurance will cover it. (most insurances won't cover items that aren't bolted down to the car!) So, for now, thanks for such wonderful advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples

    can u suggest one cpu for like that but a tad better for like 400$

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