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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelbrain
    So assuming I use nLite to strip down an OS and later on down the road, I decide to add a new hardware piece to my system, am I going to have to use nLite again or can I just use the CD to install the new drivers?
    You should just be able to add the drivers. It depends on what you need to add. I think nLite is mostly used to remove the many services and components, like MSN or Messenger, that you don't need for the simple carputer install. But some networking services may later be needed if you integrate bluetooth and that sort of thing. You should still be able to add them on later, nLite just keeps you from adding on in the first place and creates an bootable ISO for repeat installs. You'd have to use an original XP disk to install drivers and services not included in the original nLitened install.

    Quote Originally Posted by kirbycope
    I can't help but recall the phrase "the blind leading the blind" But heck it ticked me off when my math teacher said it to me and a friend when my friend was filling me in on the easiest way to do some formula from the day before, that I missed...
    Studies show that people learn best by teaching others

    But, I realize that the more we help out those who ask the questions that we figured out on our own without telling them to or the more we encourage their/our behavior.

    For that, my apologies.

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    Quick question. If I boot straight into the frontend and bypass Explorer, will I still have the task bar?

    The reason why I ask is because I have several important applications running in the background (girder, powerstrip, sync utility, etc.)

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    The quick answer: No.

    The long answer: When you boot straight into the front-end using the method explained, you are not loading explorer.exe. This is the program that provides you with the task bar, start button, and desktop icons. You can always run explorer by hitting Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the task manager, selecting Run from the top and then entering "explorer.exe"

    However, if you change your startup to minlogon, you apparently can't get the task manager unless you employ a work around. I don't remember it so you'd have to search for it.

    If you really want the taskbar, or what it sounds like, system tray, your other option is to auto-hide the taskbar, and put the front end into the startup directory or the registry HKEY-CurrentUser/LocalMachine (Either will work) -Software-Microsoft-Windows-CurrentVersion-Run.

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    NeckPayne, thanks. I'll keep the explorer shel, then.

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    Just realized also that with the task manager you can switch to other applications running in the background. So, your access wouldn't be as instant as it would be to click on them from the task bar, but you'd have it. That might be all you need, not knowing how often you want to switch to those other apps.

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    I just installed Windows XP Multimedia Center Edition, and out of the box, it boots in about 10-15 seconds. I have no idea whats been changed, but its very impressive. The only thing thats turned off in that version is that it cannot join a domain, other than that its a real 'XP Pro' version. If you put a diferent key in, it will be a plain XP Pro install without MCE, but I did not test the bootup time with that. The OEM version I have (MSDN is nice) also allows installing a tablet version of XP as well, which might be better suited for a carpc with a touchscreen display. I might give that a try once decide on how to get everything hooked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughecka
    other than that its a real 'XP Pro' version. If you put a diferent key in, it will be a plain XP Pro install without MCE, but I did not test the bootup time with that. The OEM version I have (MSDN is nice) also allows installing a tablet version of XP as well, which might be better suited for a carpc with a touchscreen display. I might give that a try once decide on how to get everything hooked up.

    A couple of things:
    - Microsoft has changed this, I think more recent versions of MCE (including the one that ships with MSDN), now use XP Home as the underlying OS. There a some subtle differences that may matter to some people.

    - I don't know of any OEM version in MSDN that changes the install based on the product key, which disk is it? (Can you give me the month/year and the title?)
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    Status: VM GTI sold, got out of the CarPC tinkering hobby, but I still think about getting back in.

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    This is a copy from MSDN that I just downloaded. Its en_WinXP_MCE_2005_cd1.iso, en_WinXP_MCE_2005_cd2.iso. On the second CD, its got tablet and MCE on it, but if you use a pro key it wont ask for CD2.

    And I know its Pro because I can remote desktop into it. XP Home does not support that. It just cant join a domain (cant use fast user switching when joined to a domain)

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