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    Car PC in and working-Now need pci video help

    You can check in my signature to see the progress on my 4runner....it's getting VERY close to being done!!

    My DVD’s are currently playing slightly distorted on my via m1000 onboard video card. After much searching I have found that this is due to the fact that the m1000 does not support the native resolution (800x480) of my Xenarc 7” monitor.

    So, I am assuming that getting my Xenarc to its native resolution will take care of this problem.

    My questions:

    -My search leads me to believe that any geforce mx4000 pci card will get me to 800x480. Correct?

    -I read in one post that some programs don’t work well in this resolution (800x480). Is this correct?

    -I checked here http://www.ohmygodmyarmfelloff.com/MP3Car/PSUpower.asp and it looks like I’ll still be good on power if I had a pci graphics card, but wanted someone else’s thoughts.

    My setup:

    -150w opus
    -M1000 motherboard
    -512 ddr
    -7200 3.5” hard drive
    -Xenarc screen
    -USB hub
    -USB GPS
    -USB 802.11g
    -USB External/Slotload/Slimline DVD drive
    -USB keyboard
    -USB mouse

    Appreciate the help/thoughts!
    2001 Toyota 4Runner

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    I am surprised that you are having such a hard time with the display, Surely the monitor itself should squeeze the image to fit on the screen. resolutions are rarely that low too, its a terrible design if it cant handle even 800x600. Resolutions on most Video cards go like this, 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and so on.. So, as far as i know, (I'm not a "know it all" by any means) you will have trouble getting 800x480 on any video card. The monitor should compensate itself for the widescreen it if has it.
    Anyway, I have a lilli as you might remember with the M10000, I am using onboard video and i have the resolution set at 800x600, the monitor screen is probably the same size as your xenarc (7" Widescreen) by scale it should be 800x480 also but the monitor compensates to fit 800x600 on it. (Its a little squished)
    I havent had any trouble so far with video, i have played a DVD off the HDD and the video was great, i will try one straight of the DVD drive tommorrow and let you know.

    On a different subject i am just curious as to why you use a Desktop HDD rather than a laptop HDD. I use a laptop drive for the shock rating, I hate those damn pot-holes that take you by surprise. Desktop drives can easily be damaged by shock movement. Just so you know....
    also Laptop drives use a quarter the power a desktop drive does.. This will greatly reduce your overall power consumption if you have to add that PCI video card.
    Still, l think your setup is very well done.

    Oh, Do you have any ideas on my not surviving crank issue?

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    My screen is currently running at 800x600. And DVD's are very visable and some might not even notice the distortion, but it's just not perfect (you can see the full details here if you want)

    As far as the video card goes, several people are running the MX4000 at the native resolution of 800x480. And my understanding is most new nvida video cards will run 800x480 with the newest drivers.

    Used a desktop hdd because I wanted a lot of space (160gigs) and wanted a cheap price ($40.00). As far as desktop drive being easily damaged, there are countless posts about this. But basically what I gathered is, there isn't any case of a HDD failing in a car because of vibration or shock (as long as it is firmly mounted to the chasis of the car). As for the power issue....you're right on, that seems to be the only drawback to me.

    I personally know next to nothing about your power supply, but I searched for a few seconds and found these posts that might help you out:

    M1-ATX, won't survive crank

    my m1-atx reboots on engine start

    And finally…be careful about “hijacking” peoples threads. I personally don’t really care, but others get pretty upset…just a heads up so you don’t get flamed by somebody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atmos114
    I am surprised that you are having such a hard time with the display, Surely the monitor itself should squeeze the image to fit on the screen.
    The issue isn't as dramatic as you perceive it. You are right that his monitor will accept a non standard resolution such as 800x600. The problem is that whenever you run an LCD outside of it's native resolution, you lose quality in a unique way. It's like trying to fit 13 eggs in a one dozen container, or alternatively, trying to fill a one dozen container with 11 eggs. No matter how you accomplish it, you had to make certain sacrifices to do it.

    I don't know many specifics about the issue myself, rdiggidy. You can probably toy with it to make things more tolerable - like selecting a lower resolution if you can keep it from stretching, but then of course you lose size. But there is no perfect answer except for a PCI video card, as you know. You should be good on power.

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    YOu need a program called POWERSTRIP, rdiggidy.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert
    YOu need a program called POWERSTRIP, rdiggidy.
    From all the posts I've read and searching I have done I have not found 1 person who has sucessfully got 800x640 with a m1000, Xenarc tsv and powerstrip.

    If you know of someone that has done it, please link me to their post or let
    me know who they are so I can find out what setting they used.

    appreciate the help
    2001 Toyota 4Runner

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    Quote Originally Posted by RawsonDR
    You should be good on power.

    Do others concur? And what would be a sign of not enoug power?

    Smoke? Things just not functioning properly?
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    Thanks rdiggidy, i'll try a couple things...

    Quote Originally Posted by rdiggidy

    And finally…be careful about “hijacking” peoples threads. I personally don’t really care, but others get pretty upset…just a heads up so you don’t get flamed by somebody else.
    ??Please explain, Little bit confused, now what did i do?? I am new to this forum, excuse my ignorance..

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    Quote Originally Posted by atmos114
    what did i do??
    "hijacking" is when you go into someone elses thread/post and you ask your own questions that are unrelated.

    As an example: I started this post and it was about video cards and screen resolutions. You then asked a question about your power supply not surviving a crank (which is unrelated to the topic).

    I really don't mind. But as a general rule others will get upset as they want you to start your own post asking the question, so that their post doesn't get a bunch of stuff about a power supply they don't have or care about.

    Make sense?

    And a lot of times if you have a specific question for one person, you can send them a private message.

    Hope that helps and let me know if you find out the solution to your power supply problem.
    2001 Toyota 4Runner

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdiggidy
    And what would be a sign of not enoug power?

    Smoke? Things just not functioning properly?
    Basically things just not functioning properly. In the case of a slight change, like you are doing, just look for anything out of the ordinary. Power issues are mysterious because they aren't very discrete. Things might work but be very near the limit, and then at a later date some random condition causes a failure.

    If you want to test for stability, run some sort of 3d application to stress the video card. It will draw a lot more power this way.

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