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    Hi all wonder if you can help me. I would like to be able to play MP3's in my car but unfortunately money is not in the greatest supply so I'm wondering what advice you can give me to get started.

    Firstly I live in the UK, I gather this site is mainly US as when I registered the default server time display was GMT-5 so I don't expect you to be able to tell me where to get parts or that necesarily we will have the same brands available.

    I suppose I had better tell you about my current set up... I have a 1999 VW Polo 1.0L two years ago I spent £200 (approx $360 US) or a weeks wages on replacing the factory fitted stereo that was in my car.

    I replaced the basic SONY Tape/FM Tuner with the following kit...

    JVC KD-SX841R Head Unit
    specs
    45Wx4
    cEQ
    Rotary Encoder
    Remote Ready
    CD Changer (MP3) Control
    Line Out
    Tel Muting
    CD-R/RW Playback
    JVC CH-X1500

    and also

    JVC CH-X1500 CD Changer
    specs
    12 Disc Capacity
    CD-R/RW/MP3 Playback
    CD Text ID3 tag
    1 bit DAC (24 bit Resolution)

    I never got round to burning any MP3 discs and then last year the changer packed up - dunno whats wrong with it but its out of warranty. And unfortunately whilst the head unit supports MP3 control, it doesn't feature MP3 playback capability.

    So now I'm trying to think what is the best/cheapest way to play MP3's in my car...
    Can I convert my old changer to an MP3 hard drive?

    Can I get a cheap MP3 unit that will plug straight into the changer cable from my head unit?

    Or do I have to build a mini computer - which I cant afford to do

    my budget is quite low and I cannot afford to pay more than I did for the above kit (£200 / $360 US)

    any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kragen Ironfist
    Hi all wonder if you can help me. I would like to be able to play MP3's in my car but unfortunately money is not in the greatest supply so I'm wondering what advice you can give me to get started.

    . . . .

    my budget is quite low and I cannot afford to pay more than I did for the above kit (£200 / $360 US)

    any suggestions?

    Perhaps an iPod (or other audio player) and an FM transmitter?

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    is possible but would have to check with UK laws on radio transmitting devices
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kragen Ironfist
    is possible but would have to check with UK laws on radio transmitting devices

    Well, if Dixon's (or whoever you shop with over there) sells it, it's probably legal. These are very low-power devices. They plug into the headphone jack of the audio player and then transmit on an FM frequency so your car's head unit can pick it up. I don't think they transmit more than a few meters. Some are configured to transmit on only a few specific frequencies, while others I believe are configurable to transmit on any open frequency you select. I htink they are easily over-powered by real FM transmissions, so if you drive to another area where your chosen frequency is actually being used, you have to re-adjust your little adapter.

    I'm also not sure if the sound is that great.

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    PS: I just looked at Dixon's web site, and they don't seem to carry it. I also did a quick check of Amazon UK, and didn't come up with the Belkin product I had in mind. Heck, maybe such things are illegal in the UK!
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    just found this - regards FM laws in UK

    iPod 3 in 1 Car Kit - FM Transmitter, Charger & Holder


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    Fantastic new product for your iPod! Listen to your music whilst in the car without having to wire in a car kit. This brilliant iPod Car Kit simply plugs into your cars cigarette lighter socket to power your iPod. On the side of the kit you select the FM frequency you which to transmit on and tune in with your car stereo.

    The cussioned grip allows the kit to hold all iPod models and also supports them whilst they are in a silicone or leather case.

    Note: This is the new model which also supports the iPod Nano.

    Product Compatibility Models

    Apple iPod
    iPod mini
    3G
    4G
    Photo
    Special Edition U2
    NEW!! Video iPod
    NEW!! iPod Nano

    Disclaimer

    Please note that UK law states that this type of transmitter cannot be legally used in the UK, although it is legal to own one. we assume no responsibility with what you do with this product once purchased
    so unfortunately FM transmitters are out of the question for me

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    hmmm - been floating around in google and just foundthis
    reduced from £270 ( $482 US) to £150 ( $268 US)

    Also noticed they sell this - unfortunately I'd also have to buy an iPod to go with it which makes it too pricy

    other than that is there a way I could plug something into my existing head unit via the CD changer cable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kragen Ironfist
    hmmm - been floating around in google and just foundthis
    reduced from £270 ( $482 US) to £150 ( $268 US)

    Also noticed they sell this - unfortunately I'd also have to buy an iPod to go with it which makes it too pricy

    other than that is there a way I could plug something into my existing head unit via the CD changer cable?
    Not cheaply, sorry.

    Adapters run in the 100US range, plus you need a device to connect. THen, you need to be able to control the thing.

    The easiest thing is to get a cheap MP3 player, and get a tape adapter (if your stereo has a cassette player), or use the MP3 player with a long extension wire leading to the aforementioned adapter.

    There are many sources for aux in devices, try logjam electronics, peripheral industries electronics as well as others.

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    get an in-line FM transmitter. it will only send the signal to your radio via the stock antenna setup, and since it doesn't transmit to the open airwaves, it might be feasable.

    that's what i plan to do until i can afford a head unit with aux-in and the mounting kit that retains the Driver Information Center that is built into the radio (f'n nuts to do such a thing when aftermarket audio is such a huge industry...).

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    thanks for your help guys - but I think I may have found the solution to my troubles. Have you ever heard of a manucfacture called Yakumo?

    How do you prefer to listen to your favourite music in the car?

    With the Yakumo Hypersound Car you will achieve musical freedom at a new level!

    The CD slot not only allows you to play music CDs but also your MP3 or WMA music files.

    The USB port lets you connect a USB stick and you will have even more possibilities when using the USB extension cord: then you can access the files on your PDA, notebook or MP3 player.

    And of course you can enjoy your favourite music collection from the SD card. This not only gives you quick access to your custom play lists from CD and USB but also offers you broad compatibility with many portable MP3 players, handheld devices and mobile phones.

    And if all of this is not enough for you, just tune in to the radio...

    The Yakumo Hypersound Car offers you all the comfort of a common car radio, such as a removable front panel with carrying box, remote control, ESP (Electronic Shock Protection), 30 preset memories, CD intro scan, E1 support and Dolby Digital sound quality.

    Package contents: Yakumo Hypersound Car / Remote control / Batteries /Manual / Cable / Carrying box for control panel

    SPECIFICATIONS

    Playable formats
    Audio CD,CD-R (MP3),CD-RW (MP3),MP3,WMA

    Interfaces
    USB | SD | MMC

    Radio tuner
    Traffic Information
    FM frequency band 87.5 - 108 MHz
    FM sensibility 26 dbµ
    FM transmission frequency 55 Hz - 10 KHz
    AM frequency band 520 - 1720 KHz
    AM sensibility 35 dbµ
    AM transmission frequency 55 Hz - 10 KHz
    Antenna impedance 50 Ohm
    Amplifi er 4 × 45 W (max.)
    30 preset channels

    Audio
    D/A converter
    Sampling frequency CD: 20 Hz - 22 KHz
    Frequency range: 44.1 KHz
    Signal-to-Noise ratio = 65 dB
    Dynamic range > 80 dB

    Playback
    Title/chapter fast forward | Direct title selection by number
    Pause | Repeat | Stop | Title search | Mute
    A - B repeat | Random playback

    Other features
    ID Tag3 support
    Remote control
    Slot for USB stick or SD card for MP3 playback
    RDS
    CD intro scan (approx. 10 secs)
    ESP -- Electronic Shock Protection

    Power supply
    12 V

    Net weight/gross weight
    2.8 kg/3.1 kg

    Dimensions
    DIN format (178 × 50 × 175 mm) | Dimensions of packaging: 295 × 225 × 100 mm

    Operating temperature
    - 20 ° C to + 70 ° C

    Languages Manual:
    D, GB, F, E, I, NL, PL

    Package contents
    Yakumo Hypersound Car
    Remote control
    Battery
    User manual
    Cable
    Box for control panel
    all that for £75 ( $134 US) whadya think?

    plus one of the guys I work with will buy my old head unit for £50 ($89 US) making my total outlay only £25 ($45 US) thast I can afford!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kragen Ironfist
    thanks for your help guys - but I think I may have found the solution to my troubles. Have you ever heard of a manucfacture called Yakumo?

    all that for £75 ( $134 US) whadya think?
    Looks interesting, but I have never heard of it before.

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