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    Question BMW E39 carpc questions (Europe)

    Hi everybody,

    I'm going to build me a carpc too but have some questions...

    Have a BMW 523i E39 early 1999 version with standard radio/tape+cd changer with DSP.

    I see a lot of nice hardware gizmo's but when trying to find out if it'd work I get confused coz of the multitude of answers and frontends. Some guys say it works perfectly and others are ******ing that it's worth ***** or that it's not supported, etc...

    What would I want to have in my Carpc all in 1 nice frontend:
    - radio RDS/TP (FM) maybe even DAB
    - mp3
    - Navigation GPS for EU with TMC and Radar information (+ max speed indicator)
    - Phone integration (Nokia 9500, already have BT carkit from nokia)
    - Ibus or whatever it is called to check the car diagnostics and fiddle with the controls
    - maintain the steering wheel controls
    - rearview camera (later on front view as well)
    - Video+TV (mpeg, divx, etc...) DVB would be nice
    - GPRS+WiFi browsing
    - VGA Touchscreen (8" if it would fit)
    - Access control (password or something)
    - Voice interaction
    - NES emulator for me (and maybe the kids )
    - Outlook calendar
    - Speedometer/rpm
    - rain/light/temp sensors
    - Additional gelpack battery (don't wanna drain my main battery)
    - iDrive kinda button to scroll thru menu's
    - SOS function (automatically dials emergency service nr with current position and identification of vehicle)
    - .... (I'm open to suggestions )

    Now the big question is what would work on 1 frontend and what do I need hardware wise.

    I have bought this little gizmo "Car2PC-BMW" http://www.indashpc.org/new/adapters/usbbmw.html so to have a clear audio signal without the need to buy a new amp/crossover/etc...

    Currently I have an ATX pc
    - P4 2.6
    - Asus P4P800-E Deluxe mobo
    - 1 Gig of memory (2x512MB)
    - 3.5" HD 80GB
    - USB BT dongle v1
    - PCI WiFi Belkin G
    - 2 x 5.25" CD/DVD drives
    - VGA Asus N6200 AGP

    Can I use anything of this pc or do I just sell it and buy an ITX/Pico carpc like the VoomPC (black edition) case with Epia mobo?

    The TFT I have in mind is an 8" widescreen but I'm not sure if I can fit it coz it is so close to the max height, I know there is someone who makes one hell of a nice bezel for the 7" liliput screens but it seems so empty with all that unused space The specs are here: http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/550
    Can anyone verify if it would fit?

    Thanks & dudes your projects look awesome!

    WaterLift

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterLift
    I see a lot of nice hardware gizmo's but when trying to find out if it'd work I get confused coz of the multitude of answers and frontends. Some guys say it works perfectly and others are ******ing that it's worth ***** or that it's not supported, etc...
    The truth is none of them really do work 100% perfectly, especially if you stuff them with all the aditional software you have in mind...

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterLift
    What would I want to have in my Carpc all in 1 nice frontend:
    - radio RDS/TP (FM) maybe even DAB
    - mp3
    - Navigation GPS for EU with TMC and Radar information (+ max speed indicator)
    - Phone integration (Nokia 9500, already have BT carkit from nokia)
    - Ibus or whatever it is called to check the car diagnostics and fiddle with the controls
    - maintain the steering wheel controls
    - rearview camera (later on front view as well)
    - Video+TV (mpeg, divx, etc...) DVB would be nice
    - GPRS+WiFi browsing
    - VGA Touchscreen (8" if it would fit)
    - Access control (password or something)
    - Voice interaction
    - NES emulator for me (and maybe the kids )
    - Outlook calendar
    - Speedometer/rpm
    - rain/light/temp sensors
    - Additional gelpack battery (don't wanna drain my main battery)
    - iDrive kinda button to scroll thru menu's
    - SOS function (automatically dials emergency service nr with current position and identification of vehicle)
    - .... (I'm open to suggestions )
    - rds and TA you can have only with a PCI FM card
    - well, that's obvious...
    - there are quite a few navigation programs that cam be succefully embeded into a front end, like Destinatot, IG, et. Depends on where you're from and what nav software you are going to use. Same thing for Radar feature.
    - I think all front ends support Phoco. Check for your phone's compatibility.
    - iBus is not for car diagnostics. For that you must have a OBD II scanner&software. iBus is for controlling stuff already in the car. Almost every BMW install has that.
    - Steering wheel control, you can have them though iBus
    - an AV camera is usually used for a rear view camera. So this is not something to be supported from a front end. However you can have an USB rear view cam, but it's not by far the idea solution.
    - video - obviuosly. TV - with a TV card. DVB, you can buy a separate kit, that pluggs into the AV from the monitor. It's a stand alone kit.
    - all front ends support browser. It depends on the skin though...
    - TS. 8" will not fit in that dash for sure.
    - access control. There's a little program by Stevieg that's made for Centrafuse.
    - Most front ends have voice interaction. But, if you want voince control that's a different matter...only in RR, this actually works.
    - most front ends have game emulators
    - not outlook, but you can have calendar in most front ends. Nut, since the net browser is already supported, you could use that.
    - Spedometer, depends on the skin. It reads it from the GPS.
    - RR has a section for sensors...
    - that has nothing to do with a fron end...
    - that's almost doable. It won't be the same...
    - I can't say I've heard about that...



    Quote Originally Posted by WaterLift
    Now the big question is what would work on 1 frontend and what do I need hardware wise.
    There's no front end that will satisfy all your demands by itself.


    Quote Originally Posted by WaterLift
    Currently I have an ATX pc
    - P4 2.6
    - Asus P4P800-E Deluxe mobo
    - 1 Gig of memory (2x512MB)
    - 3.5" HD 80GB
    - USB BT dongle v1
    - PCI WiFi Belkin G
    - 2 x 5.25" CD/DVD drives
    - VGA Asus N6200 AGP

    Can I use anything of this pc or do I just sell it and buy an ITX/Pico carpc like the VoomPC (black edition) case with Epia mobo?
    You could use the RAM, HDD, WiFi, USB stuff...the rest they're a little too much for any PSU to take on. Not to mention all the stuff you want to add...

    Quote Originally Posted by WaterLift
    The TFT I have in mind is an 8" widescreen but I'm not sure if I can fit it coz it is so close to the max height, I know there is someone who makes one hell of a nice bezel for the 7" liliput screens but it seems so empty with all that unused space The specs are here: http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/550
    Can anyone verify if it would fit?
    As I said, as far as I know, an 8" will not fit in there.
    You can always add the buttons, but I'm sure it won't look as good as it does made by them.





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    You could use the PC itself, although I'd ditch the high-end 3D card. There's no need for that in a car at all and it will just suck up precious power.

    The only reason you wouldn't want to use that setup is simply size and power requirements. The power requirements can easily be handled by using an inverter (not recomended, at least by myself) or reading this FAQ and choosing an appropriate DC-DC PSU.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cris
    - access control. There's a little program by Stevieg that's made for Centrafuse.
    It will work with any frontend.

    Actually doesn't even need a frontend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer
    It will work with any frontend.

    Actually doesn't even need a frontend.


    Really? I was it skinned specifically for CF...If it works, add it to your skin E.

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    It goes before your frontend.

    I currently use it.

    and hopefully will be adding to the features of it.

    in fact a patch has been released with the audio off facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer
    It goes before your frontend.

    I currently use it.

    and hopefully will be adding to the features of it.

    in fact a patch has been released with the audio off facility.


    Sweet. When do you reckon you'll be done with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cris
    Sweet. When do you reckon you'll be done with it?
    What do you mean 'done with it', these things are nevr 'done' they are always being tweaked and added to.

    anyway what do you want to see in it.

    Go answer that question in the correct thread, stop hijacking this one .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enforcer
    What do you mean 'done with it', these things are nevr 'done' they are always being tweaked and added to.

    anyway what do you want to see in it.

    Go answer that question in the correct thread, stop hijacking this one .


    You're telling me? You're a hijacking thread specialist...


    I meant when will StevieG's access control be a part of your skin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cris
    The truth is none of them really do work 100% perfectly, especially if you stuff them with all the aditional software you have in mind...

    - rds and TA you can have only with a PCI FM card
    for now... but soon: http://www.xtronic.be/index.php?id=91&lang=2


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