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    Ram slows it down????????

    i apologize if this has already been covered, but i didnt see a thread on it ... i read this

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    • Memory – keep in mind that the more memory you have the longer your boot up times, however, the less memory you have the slower you computer can run
    well i have never ever heard this once w/ computers, i have always heard the opposite w/ conventional wisdom on system memory the more ram you have the quicker it will start up, they even have ram drives now for quick boots and for vista they developed a ram boot drive that seems to do nothing but help boot times and sys op speeds

    so i guess what i am looking or would be a technical explanation of why you say ram would slow down the boot time

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    I know that applies for resume from hibernation, maybe even for POSTing. I don't know about OS boot times though.

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    It makes the difference only to hibernation...

    1024mb of RAM makes a 1024mb hiberfil.sys file, and so on...

    Obviously a 1024mb file takes longer to load than a 256mb file

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    it does matter in hibernation, but it also effects standard boot times.

    more ram is better. it allows you to keep more in memory from the HD when your running something so when the program calls for something it already has it on hand to page off of, instead of having to access the HD and query for info. The more ram, the more it keeps in memory.

    now, with that said. When you start up a pc. it goes thru POST. (Power on self test). one of the things it does in the post is to send voltage thru each memory sector of the ram to make sure all sectors are correct. The more ram you have the longer it will take to check the ram. Some computer bios will allow you to shut that off, but not all. if youve ever looked at your pc while its starting, what im talking about is the number that counts up in the left hand top corner.. This now concludes todays session of CS101.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king_of_fools
    i apologize if this has already been covered, but i didnt see a thread on it ... i read this

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    well i have never ever heard this once w/ computers, i have always heard the opposite w/ conventional wisdom on system memory the more ram you have the quicker it will start up, they even have ram drives now for quick boots and for vista they developed a ram boot drive that seems to do nothing but help boot times and sys op speeds

    so i guess what i am looking or would be a technical explanation of why you say ram would slow down the boot time

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    Well more memory means more memory to check when POSTing. Though I cant' see that being anything of note these days, though on older computers, it was quite noticable.

    Depending on if all memory is written or not when hibernating, that would slow it down as it has to read and write more.

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    my laptop has 1gig of ram, 1.7ghz processor

    and from being powered off, to fully on and in windows, only takes me about 30 seconds

    i really gotta wonder how impatient some people are, that 30 seconds is too long, lol

    should really let your engine warm up anyway :T

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    Quote Originally Posted by yrean
    now, with that said. When you start up a pc. it goes thru POST. (Power on self test). one of the things it does in the post is to send voltage thru each memory sector of the ram to make sure all sectors are correct. The more ram you have the longer it will take to check the ram. Some computer bios will allow you to shut that off, but not all. if youve ever looked at your pc while its starting, what im talking about is the number that counts up in the left hand top corner.. This now concludes todays session of CS101.
    Unless your computer is an antique you don't even have to worry about that.

    More memory is better. Just use standby and you don't have to worry about the much slower hibernation.
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    i didnt say it was that big of differnece. just that it takes longer. now days itll add a second maybe tops, I was just saying it is longer and explaining why to answer their question. Some people cant wait 30 seconds for a boot, add a second to a boot up time and some people might blow a vein out in there head.
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    yes i understand it takes the time for posting, but ... i think, especialy w/ newer computers, it more than buys back the time w/ its performance during the rest of boot

    but now this hibernation thing, that makes sense if that is what he was talking about.

    i am still thinking in terms of a conventional pc, and i hardly ever use the hybernation mode if ever ... is there a thread already started on hybernation etc? i am a newb to the forums but i dont wanna ask stuff thats already been covered

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    hibernation takes everything thats in memory and then saves it to a file if you have 1024mb memory.(1gig) the file it has to right will be that size. it is a faster boot then a full shutdown and when it loads up it loads the saved file allowing it to be exaclty how it was before you shut it down. whatever was running and where will be right where it left off. With that being said. Some USB devices have a heart attack when you come out of hibernation. so if you have alot of usb devices and you start having problems with them being recogized thats why.

    Standby is better in most cases unless your going to not start your car for a long time since stanby draws a little bit of power while in stanby mode.
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