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    Hi,

    I just want to make sure I'm using adequate wiring for my install. I've posted in someone else's post but, since that's not ever a good thing, I'm posting here. In my previous drawing, I wanted to get a new amp since I've heard that if you do, you'll have a bit of a boost from the monsoon system in the b5.5 passat.

    This is what I had before.. but, I won't be getting a new amp. I'll be using the stock monsoon one. There's also a guide for the rca and ground loop connection that I know about for this since I need to feed a 5v charge to one of the lines..


    Well, here's what I'm looking at now.. I've heard that you can put 0 gauge wiring from the battery but, since this is a carpc, I don't think I need that much. Also I'm not sure if I need a distribution block. Or... If I use it, is it alright to hook this up to the other devices such as the usb hub?

    Wait a sec, I don't need a ground wire coming from the fuse holder right? I think it was for the dist. block.. I just moved it over.
    I just wanted to know if all the wires are the right size. I was going to have 8 gauge but, 12 gauge is fine right?

    Sorry if I seem TOO noobish but, I've only dealt with computer installs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shidoken View Post
    Hi,

    I just want to make sure I'm using adequate wiring for my install. I've posted in someone else's post but, since that's not ever a good thing, I'm posting here. In my previous drawing, I wanted to get a new amp since I've heard that if you do, you'll have a bit of a boost from the monsoon system in the b5.5 passat.

    This is what I had before.. but, I won't be getting a new amp. I'll be using the stock monsoon one. There's also a guide for the rca and ground loop connection that I know about for this since I need to feed a 5v charge to one of the lines..


    Well, here's what I'm looking at now.. I've heard that you can put 0 gauge wiring from the battery but, since this is a carpc, I don't think I need that much. Also I'm not sure if I need a distribution block. Or... If I use it, is it alright to hook this up to the other devices such as the usb hub?

    Wait a sec, I don't need a ground wire coming from the fuse holder right? I think it was for the dist. block.. I just moved it over.
    I just wanted to know if all the wires are the right size. I was going to have 8 gauge but, 12 gauge is fine right?

    Sorry if I seem TOO noobish but, I've only dealt with computer installs.
    Your diagrams are a little confusing.

    What is the grey wire between the screen the carnetix? Is that ground. What about a ground for the carnetix?

    Distro Blocks DO NTO GET GROUNDED, unless it is a ground distro block.

    What is "BLUE" in the second pic? Also, you should probably ground the screen THROUGH the carnetix, not seperately. Why are you feeding Ignition to the screen, and to the carnetix. Why are you powering the screen off the carnetix? What screen is it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx View Post
    Your diagrams are a little confusing.

    What is the grey wire between the screen the carnetix? Is that ground. What about a ground for the carnetix?

    Distro Blocks DO NTO GET GROUNDED, unless it is a ground distro block.

    What is "BLUE" in the second pic? Also, you should probably ground the screen THROUGH the carnetix, not seperately. Why are you feeding Ignition to the screen, and to the carnetix. Why are you powering the screen off the carnetix? What screen is it??

    Michael
    Oh.. Sorry. I guess I should clear these things a bit more.

    Here's a different one.


    The monitor is a 7in touchscreen. I think the model is DWW-K301 found here.

    Hope this is all ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shidoken View Post
    Oh.. Sorry. I guess I should clear these things a bit more.

    Here's a different one.


    The monitor is a 7in touchscreen. I think the model is DWW-K301 found here.

    Hope this is all ok...
    Again, what are the "blue" lines?

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    the blue lines are the power lines going from the carnetix to those different devices. i have a 5v addon for the usb hub too.. Actually, I was wondering how to hook up the external sound card to this since there's only one for the pc and one for the monitor.

    Here's another diagram from the carnetix website.

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    the blue lines are probably the power lines.

    From the PSU to the computer it's probably the rats nest of wires that every power supply send to a mobo.

    btw - 15 amps for all of this seems a tad bit low. I'm running 20 amps but not powering my screen off of the PC PSU, and my sound card doesn't pull as much as yours I don't believe.

    Have you verified that 15 a would be ok?

    Michael - in the bottom of his first post he mentioned the deal with the fuse holder in the first pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6 View Post
    the blue lines are probably the power lines.

    From the PSU to the computer it's probably the rats nest of wires that every power supply send to a mobo.

    btw - 15 amps for all of this seems a tad bit low. I'm running 20 amps but not powering my screen off of the PC PSU, and my sound card doesn't pull as much as yours I don't believe.

    Have you verified that 15 a would be ok?

    Michael - in the bottom of his first post he mentioned the deal with the fuse holder in the first pic.
    I'm sure you're right about the fuse, Red GTi. I'm not so sure on what to use right now.. Even that write up on the PSU, cpu voltage, and wiring is pretty hard to understand since I have other devices linked to the p1900.

    Well for one, the carnetix diagram uses a 15 amp fuse for the computer and monitor. I'm sure it's alright for the usb hub too. But, if I add the soundcard to this, should I go for a bigger amp fuse? maybe 25a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6 View Post
    the blue lines are probably the power lines.

    From the PSU to the computer it's probably the rats nest of wires that every power supply send to a mobo.

    btw - 15 amps for all of this seems a tad bit low. I'm running 20 amps but not powering my screen off of the PC PSU, and my sound card doesn't pull as much as yours I don't believe.

    Have you verified that 15 a would be ok?

    Michael - in the bottom of his first post he mentioned the deal with the fuse holder in the first pic.
    Not sure what you are refering to in relation to the fuse holder, sorry.

    As for the rats nest, there is none, it is for his Mac Mini, which just uses a coaxial power connector from the P1900 I believe, and I think two wires to a button/switch to simulate the start button press.

    Blue COULD be power, but then why no ground, or why is there a ground on the screen, but not on the others. Just confusing.

    You have to fuse the circuit for the Carnetix. You will have to determine what the maximum draw the unit will accept, and fuse accordingly. You MUST determine if the Carnetix can supply enough power for all your devices. This is not total wattage, but individual rail wattage/amperage.

    I am not sure what the Carnetix max is, nor what the mac mini requires. I also am not sure what soundard you are using. Just so you know, anything that runs completely from USB uses 5 volts. If it runs from another source (Like a wall cube) you have to check to see what it requires, and if the Carnetix can supply it. You would then connect the carnetix to the devices either with a power plug that you create, or though the normal computer connections, depending on the device.

    Have you run a power calculator for the carnetix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx View Post
    Distro Blocks DO NTO GET GROUNDED, unless it is a ground distro block.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shidoken
    Wait a sec, I don't need a ground wire coming from the fuse holder right? I think it was for the dist. block.. I just moved it over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6 View Post
    I just wanted to make sure he knew that he didn't need to GROUND the distro block. Some people think that devices/things need a power and ground source in order to work. I wanted to confirm that he didn't think he needed to "power" or "ground" the fuse to make it "work".

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