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    Cop trouble? (NSW Australia)

    Hey Guys,
    One thing I have always wondered (not so much worried) about is running into trouble with cops because of my CarPC screen.
    I havn't had any trouble yet as I use an in-dash motorised screen that is below window-height so not really visible (except for the glow of a night) from outside, and if I get pulled over i just hit the 'retract' button and all they see is the Sony head deck above the screen with a strange black thing underneath it that doesnt seem to do anything.

    I was curious about this as people have them moulded into their dash (which most of them look sweet I must say) and I have seen a couple of installs where the screen sits up on the dash. This, in my mind, has to give the cops something to ***** about.

    Anyone know the actual laws or have had any problems/not-so-problems with this? I'd be interested to know if it is actually illegal to have such things.

    I know it is illegal in NSW (Australia) to have like movies/dvd's playing on a monitor thats facing the driver, however I also think it should be illegal to have them playing on the backs of headrests as I have witnessed 2 accidents caused by someone checking out the movie playing in the 4WD beside them instead of looking where they were going - but I spoze this comes down to the basic stupidity of some people.

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    Never had a problem with police. I usually switch to music if I am driving at night and I see a cop. Daytime they can't see in my car anyway.
    As far as headrest monitors being illegal, I disagree with your logic. If we're going to make things that are distracting to other drivers illegal then we need to ban hot women from walking down the street. Drivers need to pay attention to the road and if they get into a wreck its thier own fault, not that of some other guy who distracted them by playing a movie for his passengers.
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    honestly, i think whats stupid is when someone puts headrest monitors in their 2 seater roadster. that just irks me.



    cops can't say anything if you show them the GPS screen. At least in the states its legal for GPS only. anything else...they don't need to know about.
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    i'd say if it is moulded to look like factory there is not a lot they can say about it, as a lot of newer cars are coming with them standard. also if one is stupid enuff to be watching a movie etc... while driving then good on the cops for booking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edrex View Post
    As far as headrest monitors being illegal, I disagree with your logic. If we're going to make things that are distracting to other drivers illegal then we need to ban hot women from walking down the street. Drivers need to pay attention to the road and if they get into a wreck its thier own fault, not that of some other guy who distracted them by playing a movie for his passengers.

    Well yes, it is the idiot that gets distracted's fault, but the main problem I have is one woman in particular that plays movies on her headrest screens in her 4WD on the drive from wollongong to sydney every evening when she is the only person in the car just to show off... She also has the interior lights on so its easier to read the book she rests on the steering wheel whilst talking on the phone she is holding with the other hand.. These people need to be shot, instead they just cause accidents. (And for once in my life - i am not exaggerating - seen her multiple times.)

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    never had a issue here in melbourne have had 2 carpc's both with large screens 10.4" and 12.1" never been pulled over cause of the screen

    most frontends have a night auto dim function that helps alot

    however i either have the music playlist on the screen or the gps screen been there watched movies and music vids WAAAAAAY too distracting theres enough bad drivers in aus without me adding to that
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    So the general feeling is that the music list/screen is 'acceptable' as well as the GPS? I knew the cops could say nothing about the GPS screen (and if they tried I'd just tell them to make every person that went out and bought a tomtom or similar rip them off their windscreens), but was a bit iffy about the music screen (which mine is usually on 98% of the time (i dont bother with GPS much - i know my way around most of the places im driving and the maps I have are that out of date they tell me to turn right on a bridge - OUCH!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genesisfactor View Post
    honestly, i think whats stupid is when someone puts headrest monitors in their 2 seater roadster. that just irks me.
    No, that actually is a very very bright idea!!

    I got pulled over once since I got the computer and they weren't really interested in it...just were like "Is that a computer or tv screen"..."now you know you can't watch movies while driving" in a sarcastic tone....they are more interested in drugs, weapons, or that you are not wanted for murder IMO.
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    This is form the QLD Modification Guide
    Visual display screens
    DVD screens, television receivers, visual display units
    and so on may be installed in a motor vehicle. No part of
    the image on the screen may be visible to the driver
    from the normal driving position unless the screen
    cannot be operated when the vehicle is moving or it is a
    driver’s aid (e.g. in-car navigation). As well, it must not:
    • obscure the driver’s view of the road
    • impede the movement of anyone in the vehicle
    • interfere with occupant restraint systems like head
    restraints, seat belts and airbags
    • increase the likelihood of injury to anyone in
    the vehicle or
    • be fitted if any part of the image on the screen is likely
    to distract another driver.
    I guess just to be safe from a defect, flick it over to GPS when the cop comes to the window...
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    Victorian Road Rules (VicRoads)

    For those in Melbourne (Victoria/Australia), I've just look up the VicRoads Website, and Part 18, Section 299 has the following:

    299. Television receivers and visual display units in motor vehicles

    (1) A driver must not drive a motor vehicle that has a television receiver or visual display unit in or on the vehicle operating while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, if any part of the image on the screen—
    -----(a) is visible to the driver from the normal driving position; or
    -----(b) is likely to distract another driver.
    -----Penalty: 2 penalty units.
    -----Note Motor vehicle is defined in the Road Safety Act 1986, park is defined in the dictionary, and vehicle is defined in rule 15.

    (2) This rule does not apply to the driver if—
    -----(a) the driver is driving a bus and the visual display unit is, or displays, a destination sign or other bus sign; or
    -----(b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid; or Victoria Government Gazette P 2 28 October 1999 221
    -----(c) the Corporation has, by notice in writing, exempted the driver from subrule (1).

    -----Examples of driver’s aids
    -----1. Closed-circuit television security cameras.
    -----2. Dispatch systems.
    -----3. Navigational or intelligent highway and vehicle system equipment. **
    -----4. Rearview screens.
    -----5. Ticket-issuing machines.
    -----6. Vehicle monitoring devices.
    -----Note Bus is defined in the Road Safety Act 1986.


    From what I've read on some other forums, it seems like the "navigational" clause in no.3 (above) is the best way to abide by the law.

    Cheers,

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