Thread: Nobody needs to call me out...

Boy admins are quick tonight I missed it.



IBTL

I rest my case.

Bounce

It's sad to see someone as helpful as DP being trashed here. He has over 13,000 posts and at least 50% I know to be helpful. If 100% of my posts were helpful, I still don't reach DP status.

With as long as a lot of us have been here, we do see a lot of the same question over and over and over and over and over and over and... after a while it gets a little redundant when the asker could have found the answer by searching. Yes, there's a lot of junk in the forum, but it's true with all forums. Searching is just that, searching. I wouldn't expect to find every answer I seek as the first result of a search... weeding thru the crap needs to be done to uncover that gold nugget.

I have known DP for a number of years. I will say he was the first one to help me when I became a moderator and for that I am greatful.

DP may be abrasive and no-nonsense but you will have to go a long way to find some who has supported and helped these forums more than him.

@Bounce: you may have been on here for a little while, fair enough, but I am sure you haven't seen the large volume of post that have a simple answer that can be found by doing a basic search, reading the FAQ or the stickies at the top of each forum. A lot of people have tried to help new members out but get sick of answering the same basic posts over and over again and stop posting in the newbie forum. DP has helped in this part of the forums for quite a number of years. If you don't like the way DP does things, then why don't you do it? Spend the next year responding to all the newbie posts and you will see what I am talking about.

I think some people just take posting way to seriously....DP posts the way he does....There is no point getting upset because you read his post a certain way, especially given you will read it differently to others.

If his style of writing offends you, feel free to ignore him.

I've had a few replies by DP to some of my threads, sometimes I see it as being "confrontational" in my view, but at the end of the day, what he says makes sense, and contributes to the thread. I don't take offense at what he says, because at the end of the day, this is a worldwide community, Aussies speak and write differently to US, Swedish, English, Russian, anyone. If we all spoke, wrote and thought the same way, this would be one boring world

No point getting up in arms and running off screaming to mammy, let the DP speak his mind.

Besides, its always fun when DP jumps into a thread

Originally Posted by Bounce247

I rest my case.

Bounce

No need to repost, man. your voice was heard, believe you me.

But I will pose a question:
What is YOUR contribution to the community?

Before you raise your arm to hurl that stone, I suggest getting out of your glass house.



The fact of the matter is, this hobby, more than others, requires the ability to figure things out on your own. Ideally, you should understand your system, how it is put together, the components used, the wiring, the software configuration, etc.
These are things you simply can not learn from a generalized FAQ or the documentation of someone else's experiences.

I look at it this way:
Someone will be far more likely to have a successful install that they are happy with when they learn about it on their own rather than being spoon-fed the answers. In the name of "tough-love" (tough-like?), I push them in the direction of self-discovery.
Separating the wheat from the chaff is part of that process.

When you Google for something, how many link results actually provide the information you seek?
Granted the irrelevant links may not say "Google it", but the process of finding valid information is the same.

Welcome to the interwebz.

I'm not gonna lie, I've been on the receiving end of DP's "help." At the moment, it can seem like he's attacking you, but, looking back on it now, I see that it was WAY better than getting spoonfed. Whoever is attacking you, DP, I say "Let them figure it out for themselves!"

Originally Posted by freeflashstuff

I'm not gonna lie, I've been on the receiving end of DP's "help." At the moment, it can seem like he's attacking you, but, looking back on it now, I see that it was WAY better than getting spoonfed. Whoever is attacking you, DP, I say "Let them figure it out for themselves!"

Same here, but in the end I got the help I needed. But because of guys like him, you quickly begin to become trained to search first before asking questions, cause the vets will let you have it from time to time. Even still, sometimes you just can't find the answer. First it may take hours to find the right thread containing the specific answer. Some threads are so long(and the answer to your specific question may be on page 420 somewhere), that you may have given up on page 367 and decided to press the easy button and just ask(I have done that plenty of times...mostly when I had limited daylight left before nightfall) when I'm pressed for time. A far as end results, most will still feel as good about their install even if the answers are spoonfed to them, cause the actual build labor is still being done by the user, and learning some software is trickier for some than others...just my opinion.

Especially if their project turns out as or better than expected because of info/help they receive here......

what'd I miss?!

This is what happens when you dont check mp3car one day out the past few years. >.<