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    How would you know 'it's a [mere] market decision'? Politicians have their noses in everything nowadays, even in the 'independent' judiciary. My formula makes you a powerful player, while as a smartphone user, you are part of the negligeable laughing stock.

    Only truly uninformed people don't care about the radiation aspect. Which is actually 2 aspects, namely range/link quality, plus health.

    'Everyone wants a phone they can put in their pocket and they are willing to pay for it': Did I say something to the contrary? My formula enables you to do the same thing. Look at the video www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXacN_Whrms : Where you see the phone holder, the phone usually lies. Only that I used it to make the photos.

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    Beware, the joker's back...

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    > malcolm...:

    Who came first: the ignorant american, or the ignorant american industry? .)

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    Please leave anti-american comments out of it. You are going to gain no credibility with that on a forum based in America.
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    I understand your point and I actually hesitated to say what I said. But you kind of forced me to.

    Just try to forget your brainwash for a few minutes and start to think anew. We're always told that this is one of your strong points? No, you cling to what you've been told is the right thing. Just what I said: industry, influenced by politics.

    Good night for now, it's late over here.

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    Politicians do not have their noses in my individual decisions except if they, or anyone who wants to sell me something, convinces me it's in my best interest to do it. This rules in all cases where force is not involved which is our case for no one is forcing me to buy a cell phone.

    Even the informed people don't care about radiation because there is little to no information about it being detrimental to human life in any significant way. Human life is not priceless. It has a cost. If the benefits I get from the convenience provided me by my cell phone outweigh the cost (or theoretical/potential cost) of harm it could do to me, I'm going to buy it. This is how the market works.

    I'm heavily anarchist leaning and I have no trust or love for government... but your allegations are not only unsubstantiated, but borderline loony. Politicians are normal people just like the rest of us. They don't have super powers. In fact, in many cases, they are more incompetent than average. They can't even manage to spend less money than they make. Even high-school dropouts can do that.

    Also, no nation has a monopoly on ignorance and ignorance owes no allegiance to any nation.

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    How would you know 'it's a [mere] market decision'? Politicians have their noses in everything nowadays, even in the 'independent' judiciary. My formula makes you a powerful player, while as a smartphone user, you are part of the negligeable laughing stock.

    Only truly uninformed people don't care about the radiation aspect. Which is actually 2 aspects, namely range/link quality, plus health.

    'Everyone wants a phone they can put in their pocket and they are willing to pay for it': Did I say something to the contrary? My formula enables you to do the same thing. Look at the video www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXacN_Whrms : Where you see the phone holder, the phone usually lies. Only that I used it to make the photos.
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    Aw guys, don't you miss being (young? and) naive?
    Especially when compared to someone in a country living off stolen money that hack its voters electronic responses and insists on majority control of companies.

    This Sap says it all - why you yanks dumped CDMA etc in favor of the cancer- & tumor-laden GSM beats me.

    As the poor SAP says, radiating the inside of vehicles with bluetooth and GSM when you can have CDMA & the nee-Iridium with plastic-free leather trim.
    And all from a car battery that - yes, whilst it does have depleted uranium and noise - is otherwise DC and mostly cancer free.

    Hemp cabin trims and insulted cables will be available stateside soon anyhow provided DuPont don't yet again succeed in banning that superb green plant and solution to many problem. Hemp doesn't even leech sap when cut. Ad it still makes superb rope.


    Please embrace Sap-less. He is obviously no fool - they pale into significance by comparison.
    Take up his offer and fund a prototype.
    I'm sure the IP can be sorted out - I'd propose your IP and Sap's funding followed by a 50:50 split of returned revenue.

    Forget the market place and SWOTs etc, just go with the base fiscals. (Later apply the DuPont 1925 fiscalAnal model.)


    Finally, a peer with my straight fullsensical attitude.

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    > tripzero:

    Politicians do have their noses in your individual decisions insofar as they determine the framework. If they exercise influence on the industry's products (what can be offered and what can't), then you're de facto limited in your decision-taking - unless you're an expert in this field, i e can DIY. And they don't take the effort to convince you, they just rule you through their (often stealth) decisions. As an anarchist, you ought to have comprehended these conditions.

    I don't know if the health part of cellphone radiation is based on individual sensitivity. I for my part do feel the consequences, if I am being exposed to it from a near distance over a longer period. And I have read a number of times that this is also true for other people.

    And again (again, again), there is a reason why there are *antennas*, also on cars. Why do you think the base station's antenna is positioned elevated, with no obstacles around it? If it were wise to work without an antenna or a stub only, they wouldn't go to these lengths with base stations either, instead do with a stub inside the container. Without a decent antenna on your car, only a fraction of your radiation gets to the base station. Consequence: You will be heard fluttering (unless you're close to one, and you will be cut more often than necessary, because of too many error bits). Better get yourself the necessary antenna knowledge before talking about this subject.

    And that I have neither trust nor love for the government, after all the experience made, needs hardly to be emphasised. Politicians are normal people in the sense that they as individuals don't have super-national powers. They are not normal insofar as they in their little-rational organisations do have a frightening amount of powers - and worst, they usually have nothing to fear, at least not over here (it might be partially different in the US). Yes, they often are incompetent, not least they have no common sense and no experience from real life, and all this combined makes them extraordinarily dangerous.

    Regarding your last sentence, it is a matter of fact that your country, through its untiring PR hype, has gradually managed to convince almost everyone on earth that what you do is by default best, and so everyone outside can hardly wait to see what comes next over there, in order to then copy it. That's why our quality culture with regard to cellphones used in the car was scrapped, because you see: Our politicians and business bosses are as incompetent as yours are, sometimes even worse.

    I am still wondering why our car industry hasn't been affected yet by this phenomenon. If your overall logic was right, then there's no need for a BMW (netbook via cellphone, both properly connected) - everyone ought to be happy with a - (ahem) Zastava (smartphone).

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    A discussion close to the matter doesn't belong to your strong points, right Oldspark? Got this impression earlier already.

    The question would then only be (if it were interesting) if you are intellectually challenged, or if you pursue some kind of hidden agenda, and for whom.

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    Oh yes, so very true.
    I was so challenged that I (accurately) predicted the tumors etc from GSM radiation. Nearly 20 years after GSM's introduction and some still reckon their ain't proof.

    I have no hidden agendas, I just try to educate.

    Individual sensitivity? Not for that level dear. Don't forget how the microwave oven was "discovered".
    Not that that impacts the non-line-of-sight antennas that I'd be using. Why do you want your primitive transmission techniques?


    My country? I doubt you even know what my country is!


    But you go for it.
    May you succeed in your endeavors.
    Then maybe you can do some PR and hype and convince the market.

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