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    I will use my parking brake more often in cold weather. If you put an automatic car (that has a normal differential) in park, it only takes one of the drive wheels to slip, and the other will spin freely in the opposite direction. So if one drive wheel is on ice, and you are on an incline, that one wheel slips and your car is rolling.

    Having your pads freeze to the rotors (or shoes to the drums) is not really a problem. It may sound bad, but it is not hurting anything. The problem comes if your cable freezes, and does not release the brakes fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Excess
    Manuals kick a$$. It all depends on how good of a driver you are. My car has no trouble with traffic.

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    And where do you live? Some of my friends (who did rally in their days) and swear by manual, go insane in NYC rush hour traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laidback
    Is there a point to this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadiyp
    And where do you live? Some of my friends (who did rally in their days) and swear by manual, go insane in NYC rush hour traffic.
    Even in traffic manuals are nicer. More oomph to weave in and out and such. As far as going insane at rush hour? No, never. Just let the friggin clutch out is all you have to do different. Doesn't even use the same muscles.
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    Heh, I think I said the same thing at 16. "I'll never own an auto! Manuals are so much more fun, more economical, usually more reliable, blah blah blah..."

    Now that I'm a bit older, I drive automatics and wouldn't have it any other way. For my daily drivers anyway. I have a '03 Taurus that only comes with an auto, and a '97 F-150 that is rare to find with a manual.

    When I can afford another car that is strictly for fun, It'd probably be a manual.

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    Auto/Manual: Always

    Manuals are more fun to drive, but are a ***** when you want to eat, drink (non -alcohol), and talk on the celly at the same time

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    What's the point of this?

    I want to see how many of you are stupid enough to NEVER use your parking brake and leave your car resting on it's transmission all the time.

    Take this scenario:
    2 cars, both identical, parked on the opposite side of a level street. One has the car left in gear/park (for manual/auto) and the parking brake off. The other car has the parking brake on, as well as Park/in gear.

    Two soccermoms in minivans come down the road at 30mph towards each other, and neither stop, and both swerve to their sides of the road to avoid each other. Both go into the back of the cars parked at the side of the road.

    One has it's transmission ripped to shreds, and ends up 25m down the road, and is lying in the ditch at the side of the road. The other has moved about 3m down the road, and has a bald patches on the tyres. Both rear ends have crumpled up (as they're designed to do).


    Now, you tell me, which is which?


    Also, do you REALLY think that the manufacturers would have put the parking brake there if it wasn't to be used? All this "it will seize up" and "the cable will snap" is rediculous! Does it really hurt to pull up a lever every time you park, and release it every time you drive off?

    So far, you've done better than ATOT, about half of them never use their parking brakes, but there's only a few here who never use it Better, but not brilliant


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    I don't think calling these people stupid is a good idea. I know calling me stupid is not a good idea.

    First of all, you should understand how an automatic transmission works before you get all fired up. I'm assuming that you are not talking about manuals in the parked cars, because no damage would come to a manual. In the automatic transmissions that I have disassembled, there is a part called the parking pawl. This is a chunk of steel that looks like a finger. When you put the car in park, the parking pawl is allowed to move towards a gear. This finger has a huge mechanical advantage due to the gearing in the transmission and the final drive. It really doesn't need to be all that strong to keep the tire (usually only one tire is all that's really being held) from turning.

    While smacking the car in the rear end may be the ultimate test of the strength of your parking pawl, I would be betting that it survives. As a matter of fact, I personally have tried this on a Ford Crown Victoria (3500lb car) with my F-150 (4000lb truck). I hit him at 45mph and punted him about 30' down the road. I did not inspect his trans after, but I do remember looking at the skidmark that trailed his right rear tire. I think his parking pawl survived.

    I have also seen cars that were repossesed, and had to be dragged on the drive wheels with the car in park because they didn't have good access to hook up corrctly. They'll drag those things like 1/4 mile so that the owners won't mess with them when they are hooking it up correctly to tow in. The parking pawls in those cars held up.

    If your car had just been rear ended by a minivan at 30mph, you are certainly in for an insurance claim. Throwing a parking pawl in the tranny is not going to make much difference in the scope of the other repairs you are doing.

    Leaving the parking brake off may have given your car a little extra give at the point of impact, and saved the poor soccer mom some injury.

    Also, I don't remeber reading anyone say that using the parking brake would make it seize. I did say that I try to make it a point to use it at least occasionally so that it doesn't seize.

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