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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused
    What's the point of this?

    I want to see how many of you are stupid enough to NEVER use your parking brake and leave your car resting on it's transmission all the time.

    Take this scenario:
    2 cars, both identical, parked on the opposite side of a level street. One has the car left in gear/park (for manual/auto) and the parking brake off. The other car has the parking brake on, as well as Park/in gear.

    Two soccermoms in minivans come down the road at 30mph towards each other, and neither stop, and both swerve to their sides of the road to avoid each other. Both go into the back of the cars parked at the side of the road.

    One has it's transmission ripped to shreds, and ends up 25m down the road, and is lying in the ditch at the side of the road. The other has moved about 3m down the road, and has a bald patches on the tyres. Both rear ends have crumpled up (as they're designed to do).


    Now, you tell me, which is which?


    Also, do you REALLY think that the manufacturers would have put the parking brake there if it wasn't to be used? All this "it will seize up" and "the cable will snap" is rediculous! Does it really hurt to pull up a lever every time you park, and release it every time you drive off?

    So far, you've done better than ATOT, about half of them never use their parking brakes, but there's only a few here who never use it Better, but not brilliant


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    You forgot that your car could easily hit another car, cross a road causing a acident or kill someone. I don't want my car being used to hurt someone, even if by acident (or any car) . When a leave it in one place it must stay in that place
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    OK, I didn't mean to call any one particular person "stupid", it was in a "general" way. As far as i'm concerned, the parking brake is there for when you park.

    Correct? So why not use it? The reasons given, to me, do not show any decent reasoning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused
    OK, I didn't mean to call any one particular person "stupid", it was in a "general" way. As far as i'm concerned, the parking brake is there for when you park.

    Correct? So why not use it? The reasons given, to me, do not show any decent reasoning.


    Garry
    I actually call mine an emergency brake. Maybe I should only use it in an emergency.

    Seriuosly though, I don't always set it because I am lazy. What more do you want. I'm not STUPID! I am LAZY! There are times (most of the time) that setting the parking brake means squat. I know I am putting my parking pawl at a slight risk, and I accept it.

    You going to start a commitee for PETCP (People for the Ethical Treatment of Car Parts)?

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    LOL, nope, no PETCP, just "PSTFB" (People for Setting The ****ing Brake)

    When I was taught to drive, i was taught to use the handbrake (which is what it's actually called mainly in the UK) whenever I park, whether it be on a hill, or on the flattest of surfaces. Hell, if I didn't use it, I would have failed the test, whether it be in an Auto or a Manual. Hence, I don't get why people (mainly Americans, from my experiences) don't use the parking brake when parking.


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    By the way, how does your accident theory account for cars that have the parking brake and drive wheels on different axles? The parking brake isn't going to do much to help when it's not on the same wheels that the parking pawl locks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Confused
    LOL, nope, no PETCP, just "PSTFB" (People for Setting The ****ing Brake)

    When I was taught to drive, i was taught to use the handbrake (which is what it's actually called mainly in the UK) whenever I park, whether it be on a hill, or on the flattest of surfaces. Hell, if I didn't use it, I would have failed the test, whether it be in an Auto or a Manual. Hence, I don't get why people (mainly Americans, from my experiences) don't use the parking brake when parking.


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    On my last car (manual) the parking brake (handbrake) used the rear brakes (as most do). When I parked it in my drive (flat) for a long period of time (maybe a week) with the parking brake on when it came to driving it the pads would have stuck to the drum (due to air moisture etc etc) so when leaving it in the drive I would leave it with the parking brake off and it in gear "just in case".

    Anywhere else, always use the parking brake... Especially on a tight 180...

    Best reason to use the parking brake is that kids can happily come along and push your car backwards into the middle of the parking lot when you leave it off. Even if there is no apparent incline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkadiyp
    And where do you live? Some of my friends (who did rally in their days) and swear by manual, go insane in NYC rush hour traffic.

    Hey I do Central London driving and still will always have a manual over an automatic.

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    The difference in UK and US attitudes to the handbrake (parking brake) is funny. In the UK we are taught to always use the handbrake when we park and when we are waiting for a long time at a junction on an incline (although my mum likes to let the car ride on its clutch and wonders what the smell is!!!!).

    Personally i think it is a bit irresponsible to not use your handbrake when you leave your car as you never know what might happen when you are not there. It is true that if someone bumps your car when parking or hits it quite hard the damage will be less but what if the car rolls into some pedestrian or into oncomming traffic. Someone could get seriously hurt because your car did not stop.

    I have had more than my fair share of handbrake cable problems and yes brakes may stick on but they soon release when you start to move and you may have to give the car a little extra gas to help it move initially. Most problems i have had with cables on old cars with the sheath cracking and allowing moisture to rust the cable causing it to jam on or jam off. Yes it was pain in the butt to replace but at the end of the day if something goes wrong with your main brakes you get it fixed and that should be no different for your hand brake as it is a safety device. I think that it is more likely you will get brake problems if you just leave it off for ages and someday when you have a problem with your foot brakes and pull the handbrake then it may not work - then you are screwed! (and yes you can use transmission braking but brakes are still better)

    Also, I put the car in gear (manual) when on a steep incline just in case the handbrake slips or park the car with the front wheels turned slightly so they roll into curb but not enough for someone to hit them and damage my steering.

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