Photo-Enforced Speed Limit

**cadence117** · 05-15-2004, 11:54 AM

Well, i live in charlotte, NC. And it just so happens that the surrounding area has decided to put a 3 year pilot program for Speed-limit enforcement into action.

Basically, anywhere the govt thinks that they have "high-speeding" or "high-crash" areas, they set up cameras equipped with radar devices. If You are driving on one of these roads and get scanned as going more than 4 miles over the speed limit, You Get A Ticket. $50 dollar fine, and more if it clocked you going 15 mph over the limit.

This feels like such a invasion of... something. They might as well install devices to automatically make all of the cars detect and go exactly the speed limit.

Another problem is that the ticket is sent to the owner of the vehicle. So if your son needs to take your vehicle out for a night, and blows by one of these things, You get the ticket. It's a slim chance that you'll remember who was driving when you recieve the ticket in the mail a week later.

But you know, its really is great. You drive along on the streets and all the sudden the guy in front of you is slamming on his breaks cause he just saw the camera, and needs to sneak by. IT really cuts down on wrecks.

oh but don't fret now, it all goes to the school system....

Anyway.. thats my rant, anyone else have these cameras set up in their area? If not it wont be long...

heres some linkage about it:
http://www.charmeck.org/Departments/...nforcement.htm

**spectrrr** · 05-15-2004, 12:49 PM

correct me if i'm wrong (since i'm not from the UK), but dont they have they everywhere over there? AND didnt someone come out with a database of all the cameras and little GPS device that sits on your dash and warns you everytime you get near one?

"No DMV or insurance points will go against the person cited" PHEW, thats at least one good thing... my insurance is high enough as it is, and i've never even gotten a speeding ticket! (not saying that i dont speed though

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"The need for reasonable speed limits is obvious. Speed limits are established by traffic engineers and transportation officials with the purpose of creating the safe and efficient movement of traffic." BULL****.... i've seen the work of these so called "traffic designers" before... keep your work, my three year old can do better.

you want to reduce driving accidents? TRAIN GOOD DRIVERS. put in a REAL drivers ed system, instead of handing out a licence to anyone who demonstrates they can drive on a 25mph road for 5 minutes.

BAD drivers cause accidents. GOOD drivers can drive considerably faster than bad drivers, and still be SAFER.

the long and short of it is we have far too many unskilled motorists on the road that never should have gotten their license. Punishing the good drivers because because the local state/city let too many bad drivers on the road seems like a really ****ty solution two me...

ok, i'm done with my rant too... I consider myself to be a very skilled driver, and spend about 2 1/2 hours on the road a day, and take particular offence to things like this.

**pioneer** · 05-15-2004, 01:23 PM

Yeah, we have them alover the place here. its stupid.

**Hcomplyr** · 05-15-2004, 01:26 PM

the only reason i've ever gotten into accidents was because of ignorant, unskilled drivers. I was rear ended by a truck 3 times my car's size, i rear ended a woman who slammed on her brakes to go around a bump in the road, and hit by 3 kids in a tin can ford festiva. The guy in the truck didn't see me, the lady (who was driving a van with no kids in it) said she didn't want to ruin her suspension (it was a minor bump) and the kids blew a stop sign and hit me head on. I have never caused an accident and my parents tell me i'm a wreakless driver. speeding shouldn't be illegal, because the accidents that would be caused by speeding morons would help thin out the surplus population. Auto picture taking by speed posts is stupid, by the time you can see them your already speeding so it gives you no oppurtunity to slow down in time. They're going to make a fortune!!! I think Wyoming had no speed limits during daylight hours up until around 1995 and they had record lows in accidents, fatal or otherwise. But, as soon as they starting posting speed limits the accidents hit record highs. Speed limits put people on edge because they have to worry about being pulled over. If I had no limit on my speed I would be gunning it left and right, but i know when to slow down so more than likely I wouldn't cause an accident. I'm confident in my ability... its everyone else that scares me

**spectrrr** · 05-15-2004, 01:30 PM

dammed right...
by far most accidents I'm seen were caused by drivers slamming on their breaks instead of taking other more intelligent manuvers. of course if you cant drive worth S**T, then your only option is to hit the brakes..... which is exactly why I get so ****ed off at the state's giving away a licence to anyone who can drive 25mph for 5 minutes without wrecking....

**Skraggy_uk** · 05-15-2004, 01:30 PM

Oh yeah. We have them. Nothing worst than getting blinded by the flash of one going off when someone speeds coming the other way. Lights up the night like day.

And even though we are told they are for safety enforcement, they aren't allowed to put them where they are most needed (schools, highstreets, outside shopping centres), they are only allowed to put them where a large majority of road users might speed, i.e the hundreds of miles of almost straight dual carriageways, (think highways and interstates) where it is the safest place of all to break a limit if you must. And they reduce the limits too, so a road that was 70 before the camera gets reduced to 40. Sm more people get caught.

Only thing is, where they place them makes the most money. Where they can't place cameras, they put in speed humps, and make half the traffic wait to go against the flow using chicanes.

Oh and if you get flashed you also get points on your license. 12 points and you are back to walking/public transport. You think they don't want people to pay taxes through buying fuel when they drive don't you.

**cadence117** · 05-15-2004, 01:34 PM

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**Hcomplyr** · 05-15-2004, 01:38 PM

splendid!

**toadster123** · 05-15-2004, 01:43 PM

if u rear end someone... no matter what... i think its your fault... ... thats why you are suppose to leave room to stop ...

for example , i deer juts out in front of teh car ahead of you... and they slam the brakes... if u rear end them , its your fault...

anyways.. i just think some people believe they are better drivers than they claim...
i dont agree with most speed limits and those speed cameras ... that is a different situtation...

**Hcomplyr** · 05-15-2004, 02:21 PM

Legally my fault, but we all know legally at fault is BS for 1/2 of the accidents, because the kids in the festiva weren't ticketed and i had to pay for my head to be stapled shut. I just barely tapped her, she didn't report it but instead of driving over it she went around it unnecessarily, that was my point, it wouldn't have been an issue if she just drove over the bump. I went over it, my car survived. But it was in the middle of an intersection, i was trying not to get hit myself. Funny part was I was on my way to buy new pads and rotors