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Thread: Got a letter from ISP. Business Software Alliance. WTF??

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    I got a letter about a movie from my ISP. Just be careful. These scumbags may start suing in five or ten years. I'm keeping all my money in some businesses for now.

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    Man...that sux...hopefully they're just sending these randomly...ISPs don't really want to be giving out info about their customers...could backfire and they could lose these same customers...write that letter!

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    No, they are not sending them randomly.

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    Most likely your ISP isn't snooping on you. What typically happens is organizations like RIAA, BSA, and MPAA keep an eye out for copies of their products floating around online. If you download stuff using bittorrent, kazaa/lite, DC++, or any other software sharing app that doesn't conceal your IP, they can easily get a list of who's downloading their product and send letters to the ISPs that the IP belongs to. The ISP then (sometimes) notifies the user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter
    Most likely your ISP isn't snooping on you. What typically happens is organizations like RIAA, BSA, and MPAA keep an eye out for copies of their products floating around online. If you download stuff using bittorrent, kazaa/lite, DC++, or any other software sharing app that doesn't conceal your IP, they can easily get a list of who's downloading their product and send letters to the ISPs that the IP belongs to. The ISP then (sometimes) notifies the user.
    Thanks gutter. Would a proxy work to mask my IP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppgt94
    That is ridiculous. No big deal? They had absolutely no reason for suspicion. It's like searching a house with out permission or a warrant. The software they are claiming that I am trading is ridculous as well. I personly feel this infringes on civil libertys.
    That sucks, man.

    However, because the BSA is a private (as in non-governmental) entity, they don't need warrants, nor do many civil liberty protections apply. Of course, they can't come in and search your property like the government can, but they can look at publically available information, or convince your ISP to snoop on you (as I'm sure your contract with your ISP allows in the small print.) Most likely it's a scare tactic, but we've seen the RIAA go to quite some lengths to make examples of people.

    If you have a decent alternative, you might want to switch ISPs. There's no way the BSA would have obtained your name and address, at the very least, without cooperation from the ISP. And if they gave that cooperation without even notifying you, they're likely just rolling over for whatever large corporate intrests that come knocking. While I'm sure many if not most ISP do just that, I would like mine to at least put up some resistance or give me a heads-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mushin
    That sucks, man.


    If you have a decent alternative, you might want to switch ISPs. There's no way the BSA would have obtained your name and address, at the very least, without cooperation from the ISP. And if they gave that cooperation without even notifying you, they're likely just rolling over for whatever large corporate intrests that come knocking. While I'm sure many if not most ISP do just that, I would like mine to at least put up some resistance or give me a heads-up.

    That is the worst part. In my area this is the only high-speed provider. I would love to switch and giving them my money. The letter was NOT an email, it was sent to my home address. No heads up. Thanks for backing me Mushin.

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