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Thread: Got a letter from ISP. Business Software Alliance. WTF??

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    The BSA is a bunch of bull****. They can't make your ISP do anything nor should your ISP even listen to them.

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    I got an email from my provider about a year and a half ago...for distributing (I was using Kazaa until this happened) Vanilla Sky. Not only did I get scared sh1tless by the letter, but the movie was garbage to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Custommx3
    get Protowall
    I was using protowall with a blocklist I updated daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppgt94
    That is ridiculous. No big deal? They had absolutely no reason for suspicion. It's like searching a house with out permission or a warrant. The software they are claiming that I am trading is ridculous as well. I personly feel this infringes on civil libertys.
    Well, I see it as no big deal, and I don't really worry about 'big brother'. If you don't do anything wrong then it doesnt matter if they spy on your because they won't get anything. However on the other hand, it can be a headache as in your case. But there is a strong chance that you gave them permission to sniff incoming packets when you signed up with the provider. So there is no breach of privacy. I wouldn't worry about it too much, unless you are doing some serious pirating or selling nuclear secrets. Most of those letters are just meant to scare people straight.

    If you are interested in that stuff, the private groups are the way to go. Much better quality and much safer. But they take a lot more time too.
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    If you don't do any file sharing, you may need to check your wireless network if any. Somebody else may be there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppgt94
    That is the worst part. In my area this is the only high-speed provider. I would love to switch and giving them my money. The letter was NOT an email, it was sent to my home address. No heads up. Thanks for backing me Mushin.
    You should contact your ISP and see if they gave your info out. I know that if my ISP gave my info out to someone "claiming" I shared their software I would sue them for violating my privacy (assuming their TOS doesn't allow releasing private information, which it should).
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    I can honestly say I have seen alot of this. I haven't ever recieved a letter but I know exactly what you are talking about. I have a friend that works at the only DSL provider in my town and he talks about this crap all the time.

    I agree that it sucks but it is almost standard that they will give out your info to the BSA cause it releases liability from them. They have the right to snoop your traffic cause you are using thier physical lines and if you do anythig illegal they are held responsible unless they can provide proof otherwise. That proof is your info cause it is attached to a IP address provided from the BSA.

    It is also pretty much standard to have the TOS give them the rights to release any required info.

    And again...it sucks...I agree...protowall has been mentioned and it rocks...I will 3rd or 4th the nomination for it.

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    Cool

    Lets just say that you have an open wireless access point and someone did a drive-by associated with your AP and started kazaa and started sharing all sorts of copyrighted material. You, as a victim of this oh so popular offense now get the letter from your isp which was probably notified by a copyright defender that your ip showed up on the kazaa network as sharing some copyrighted files. Since you dont want this to happen again you notify your isp that in fact you are unaware of anything like this and that you will look into the security settings of your AP and you will also be proactive and remove all the malware/spyware that was using you as a proxy. Then you go and reflect about what just happend and see what you can do about it ... conceptually speaking ... donate some money to the EFF etc etc.

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    Here's the plan I came up with as I was reading my letter:

    1) Get address of wealthy lawyers in area
    2) Determine which have unsecured wifi access point
    3) Bittorrent like madman off this connection
    4) Tip off MPAA/RIAA goon with torrent/IP
    5) Giggle like madman as case is taken to Supreme Court

    I doubt I'll get around to it. Why don't you guys go ahead and give it a shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatyummypuppies
    Here's the plan I came up with as I was reading my letter:

    1) Get address of wealthy lawyers in area
    2) Determine which have unsecured wifi access point
    3) Bittorrent like madman off this connection
    4) Tip off MPAA/RIAA goon with torrent/IP
    5) Giggle like madman as case is taken to Supreme Court

    I doubt I'll get around to it. Why don't you guys go ahead and give it a shot?
    You may be on to something !!!

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