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    New Draft?

    I never EVER EVER was interested in politics. This year I just don't want to know the result. It's all retarded.

    But something caught my attention. George Bush plans to activate the draft by June 15 2005. When I first heard this from a friend, I didn't believe my ears. He doesn't have enough troops? There's only 135,000 (or so) in Iraq! Our military must be at least several million strong. So why a draft? After that I hear that he plans to force all men, ages 18 to 25 serve two years in the military.

    You've got to be joking me. This really doesn't seem possible. Being seventeen, I'm f**kin ****ed. Did someone forget about freedom? Does any one have any more information, or some insight on this matter?

    And good god, please vote Kerry.
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    While trying to leave out my personal opinions on the matter, I seriously doubt Bush has, or will, announce any plans for a draft before the election. It would be politically very damaging, as your reaction attests.

    That doesn't mean it wouldn't happen (even if Kerry is elected, though I would say that the chances would be less.) Right now, the US military is pretty stretched. We're extending the tour of duty, as well as pulling troops from Korea & Europe. If something like North Korea boils over, a draft could be a real possibility.

    Politics can often be a pile of crock, but don't just ignore it, because it will affect you. The greatest threat to our democracy, any democracy, is the citizenry becoming cattle.

    I have to add one thing though: Freedom? It sometimes has to be fought for and defended. The draft is not always bad. But the threat to freedom can just as often come from our own government. So be informed. And pay attention to politics.

    Oh man, this is going to open up the floodgates, isn't it? Ah well, I've said my part.

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    i've heard they plan on putting laws in place so that going to Canada to avoid the draft isn't an option either.

    if Bush is re-elected, i'm leaving this country. not just because of what Bush will do to further ruin this country and our reputation around the world, but also because i don't want to live in a country where the people willingly elect such a leader.

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    I know proposing a draft would no doubt be suicidal. But I am concerned of something happening soon. A draft is unlikely to be passed by congress. There was a lot of people being added to the draft board, and about $28 million headed its way. I'm not sure what that means, but it sure doesn't sound good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gutterslide
    i've heard they plan on putting laws in place so that going to Canada to avoid the draft isn't an option either.
    That, I believe, has already happend. To be precise, it's not so much a law as an extradition treaty with Canada in which Canada will extradite US nationals wanted for the draft here. I'm not 100% certain though.

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    I think LGBR's belief that we have millions of active troops may be a bit off target... I would think we likely have closer to maybe a half million. However, I couldn't find any sources to back that up. Be that as it may, the thought of mandatory service seems too extreme. This puts me, a republican, on the fence.

    If anyone can, without using party bias, that is, without references to democrat or republican party policy or beleif, and without using republican history or stances on issues as arguments for the democrat party, compose a compelling arguement for John Kerry for President, I'd like to hear it.

    In other words don't just tell me that Bush sucks. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam432823
    I think LGBR's belief that we have millions of active troops may be a bit off target... I would think we likely have closer to maybe a half million. However, I couldn't find any sources to back that up. Be that as it may, the thought of mandatory service seems too extreme. This puts me, a republican, on the fence.

    If anyone can, without using party bias, that is, without references to democrat or republican party policy or beleif, and without using republican history or stances on issues as arguments for the democrat party, compose a compelling arguement for John Kerry for President, I'd like to hear it.

    In other words don't just tell me that Bush sucks. Thanks.
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    i can see the draft happening again. Most troops aren't gonna re-enlist for another tour over there and they are already well into the reserves. I'm 25 so i'm almost past the draft age.. I can see us being over in Iraq for at least another 5 years
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    It's politcal suicide for whoever votes for it (senate and house), That and I'm not worried much, The US army has made it clear that they don't want me.

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