Thread: Need some advice

Yeh, another FWD bashing thead

And umm... I don't really care about american cars. They are ****. I'm talking about imports I hate it when a car feels like a ******* boat. My car isn't toally in the boat category, but a firmer ride wouldn't hurt

Well, we have this canyon that I need to take to get to my friend's house. At the speed limit (25mph) there is practically no difference between FWD and RWD. But when you get to the speed of traffic (40mph) then you start seeing the difference. In FWD cars you feel the need to jerck the wheel right as you enter the bend, otherwise the car goes too near the edge of the road or into oncoming traffic On my car, I can start steering much earlier and the turn comes out much smoother with the car being centered.

The steering is just better in RWD cars because the steering wheels aren't connected to the engine. I noticed a pull to one side on every FWD car I drove. Plus the steering changes in feeling depending on speed.

FWD is better for the people living in snow states who are too poor to afford AWD. I'd argue with you about the parking. You're parking at such speeds that the drivetrain doesn't really matter.

Well, my car doesn't have a LSD yet, so i'd get uneven tire spin which would make me loose time. My car is great after 40mph. It takes a lot of energy to get it going. One of the kids at my school drove me around in his GTi 1.8t, its fast, but I didn't feel safe in it at high speeds. My car actually feels smoother at higher speeds.

Originally Posted by Scouse Monkey

OMG not another FWD bashing thread....

I think it is funny that americans go on about how they use RWD cos it handles so much better yada yada yada but american cars are like marshmallows to drive and handle **** anyway.

It is ture RWD is better (except in snow) but how many of you guys expoit the handling advantage of your RWD car? probably once in a blue moon!

FWD is easier, lighter, cheaper to service (diff is int he gearbox so only 1 transmission oil change and no propshaft), cheaper to make, more reilable due to lower part count but driveshafts can wear out quicker (easy replacment/fix) and are safer handling due to little chance of oversteer (only during extreme lift off).

For the masses, FWD is the best option so stop bickering and saying 'my car is better than yours'. My car is FWd and dam good fun and i bet it is easier to park and more efficent that a big long rwd saloon.

Boris, a civic type R would spank all over your lexus around the bends (infact so would my pug and any golf GTI around tight twisty lanes) so can we have an end to the RWDvFWD debate? it is boring!

Originally Posted by Scouse Monkey

OMG not another FWD bashing thread....

I think it is funny that americans go on about how they use RWD cos it handles so much better yada yada yada but american cars are like marshmallows to drive and handle **** anyway.

It is ture RWD is better (except in snow) but how many of you guys expoit the handling advantage of your RWD car? probably once in a blue moon!

FWD is easier, lighter, cheaper to service (diff is int he gearbox so only 1 transmission oil change and no propshaft), cheaper to make, more reilable due to lower part count but driveshafts can wear out quicker (easy replacment/fix) and are safer handling due to little chance of oversteer (only during extreme lift off).

For the masses, FWD is the best option so stop bickering and saying 'my car is better than yours'. My car is FWd and dam good fun and i bet it is easier to park and more efficent that a big long rwd saloon.

Boris, a civic type R would spank all over your lexus around the bends (infact so would my pug and any golf GTI around tight twisty lanes) so can we have an end to the RWDvFWD debate? it is boring!

first off, dexter...i'm a Mazda guy. (look at my avitar) and i really like protege's and all mazdas car. This corvette is the first non-mazda car that i've owned.

now... scouse, i think you're pretty cool from most of your posts but.... Good God! take that stick out of your *** and relax. there is a difference between ball busting and bashing.


Now since you said that "I think it is funny that Americans go on about how they use RWD cos it handles so much better yada yada yada but American cars are like marshmallows to drive and handle **** anyway." I assume that you are talking to me because i am the big American dope with the big gas gussiling v8. I will tell you this; having driven two worthy representative for American engineering and Japanese engineering at their best, That i would take either one of them any day of the week. Neither car outshines the other. True, I don't exploit the potential of my car because i work so freakin' much and still haven't had the chance to learn the limits of my car (and still am learning how to drive something with gobs of torque). But when life was a little less busy (i had the RX at that time) I used to push it to it's limits every other weekend up in the canyons.

I don't think we were saying that one car was better then the other. I know that any day of the week my big *** saloon could get spanked by a highly modified civic. oh... and i get about 29 mpg on the highway (well i did when it was stock) so how's that for efficient?

as far as your pug (or civic or golf) beating his Lexus in the twisties.... that's like saying that your suv can out tow my corvette...

different strokes for different strokes i guess.




a little background on the two cars i've owned:

1999 Corvette, stock suspension. rebuilt engine: Head/cams package, machined block, forged pistons, long tube headers, high-flow cats, borla exhuast, l/w flywheel, fat *** tires, high perf/lightweight 3-pc rims.

1993 Mazda Rx-7 R1 Twin Turbo- sport springs, upgraded adjustable anti-sway bars, street ported engine, high flow cat, down-pipe (no precat), trust exhaust (not the 'fart can' or apexi n1 exhaust), Reprogrammed ecu, 15 lbs of boost.

I think these two machines are worthy competitors for a import vs. domestic comparison. The rx-7 does handle better, and the vette is faster but stock for stock they aren't very far off.

Originally Posted by 0l33l

And umm... I don't really care about american cars. They are ****.

oh...i forgot...0l33l...SCREW!


(note...this is light hearted ball busting... not bashing)

Wow...that reply was a lot better then i was expecting

best friends again?

Wow, LOL, it exploded with replies. Well I guess I'm too "poor" for AWD. I dunno, i figured this board would be exempt from comments like those, we should just be interested in our carputers and such, I really don't wanna come here and hear how my car sucks because its FWD (but I do have an LSD...) and how im too poor to buy AWD. Im not like ****ed or anything, its just kinda disheartening. We all have different cars and why put each other down?

scott, nice rx7! *drool*

heh...my first car was an m-edition miata with 17's, dual exhaust...and oh yeah, a turbo kit. i had dumped a crap load of money into body work and what not...flared fenders, side skirts, perfect paint...even won a few first place trophies when i was into the whole car show scene. soo see, I'm a mazda guy over here on the dark side