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    Childfree is the way to be (for me!)

    This thread is being created to remove the off-topic chatter from another thread. Feel free to jump in if you desire.

    For those interested, my fiance and I made a choice to not have children. We felt that given our limited free time and resources, we would not be good parents. After all, if one cannot keep a litterbox or backyard spotless from cat and dog waste, when can one possibly find the time for a child? Besides the 250,000+ kids in the adoption system were additional evidence to us that we didn't need to bring another life into the world.

    Anyhow, the moniker "child-free" separates us from those who really WANT to have kids, but cannot - the childless - as we took fertility tests to see if a vasectomy was necessary instead of finding out who was at fault for not conceiving.

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    Posted from the original (hi-jacked) thread - benefits of not having kids... the short list:

    • Lovemaking any time, day or night, anywhere - kitchen, living room - wherever.

    • Sleeping in on weekends.

    • Peaceful, quiet households.

    • Clean floors/no stepping over toys.

    • Garages you can park cars in, not store toys in.

    • Restful, relaxing vacations and the money to afford them.

    • Sports cars, not mini-vans/SUVs.

    • Whining is only something you here at work.
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    you know ... it is indeed frowned upon to choose to be 'child free' ... and that really is silly if you think about it.

    sure it's true that if no one reproduced humanity would die off (which might be a good thing) ... but on the flip side, if EVERYONE had two and a half kids (I'm really looking forward to having that half baby) the earth will continue to become over populated until we all are forced to live in poverty. That doesn't sound like fun.

    So I say more power to those who choose not having kids is the responsible thing to do. Even if it is a selfish thing to do (not have kids so you can focus on your own life) ... isn't it better to be honest with your selfishness than to be a sub par parent?

    the bane of our existance is that reproducing is easy to do on accident (if you're irresponsible) also enjoyable. So it stands that those who are irresponsible, and therefore more likely to be bad parents, are statistically more likely to reproduce.

    what a world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakes
    you know ... it is indeed frowned upon to choose to be 'child free' ... and that really is silly if you think about it.

    sure it's true that if no one reproduced humanity would die off (which might be a good thing) ... but on the flip side, if EVERYONE had two and a half kids (I'm really looking forward to having that half baby) the earth will continue to become over populated until we all are forced to live in poverty. That doesn't sound like fun.

    So I say more power to those who choose not having kids is the responsible thing to do. Even if it is a selfish thing to do (not have kids so you can focus on your own life) ... isn't it better to be honest with your selfishness than to be a sub par parent?

    the bane of our existance is that reproducing is easy to do on accident (if you're irresponsible) also enjoyable. So it stands that those who are irresponsible, and therefore more likely to be bad parents, are statistically more likely to reproduce.

    what a world.
    word. We dont need more people that cant handle a child nor want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shakes
    you know ... it is indeed frowned upon to choose to be 'child free' ... and that really is silly if you think about it.
    Misery loves company, thus those with children want others to join them. But seriously, society has conditioned us to behave as we do. If you think about your childhood, you probably heard "what do you want to be when you grow up?" That's conditioning. "Where are you going to college?" Conditioning that assumes you're attending college. "Got a girlfriend?" Conditioning that assumes you're straight. "When you guys getting married/when you gonna make an honest woman of her?" Conditioning that assumes you'll follow the societal norms of matrimony. After marriage, "when you having kids/how many kids you having?" More societal conditioning.

    I have to admit that I ask the kid question of those who know our childfree choice, just to egg them on!

    Quote Originally Posted by shakes
    sure it's true that if no one reproduced humanity would die off (which might be a good thing) ... but on the flip side, if EVERYONE had two and a half kids (I'm really looking forward to having that half baby) the earth will continue to become over populated until we all are forced to live in poverty. That doesn't sound like fun.
    You bring up one of the points we considered. Overpopulation is a reality. Studies have shown that societies rarely control their growth rate properly and those societies that exist with a set limit on their resources die off. Easter Island is one example where the evidence shows the society perished as it consumed all its natural resources... but not before turning to cannibalism.

    Quote Originally Posted by shakes
    So I say more power to those who choose not having kids is the responsible thing to do. Even if it is a selfish thing to do (not have kids so you can focus on your own life) ... isn't it better to be honest with your selfishness than to be a sub par parent?
    Ah, but is it selfish, really? Compare that to the person who is spending thousands on fertility treatments or desparately trying to have a baby when there are over 250,000 kids waiting for adoption. The selfless individual so strongly desiring a child will take care of those in need, before serving their own needs. And when you meet someone trying to have kids, see if they can provide just five reasons to reproduce without using the phrase "I/We want". "I/We want" denotes selfishness.

    By contrast, it is selfish to require a "mini-me" to add meaning to my life, if you set aside the societal conditioning we've been beat over the head with all our lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by shakes
    the bane of our existance is that reproducing is easy to do on accident (if you're irresponsible) also enjoyable. So it stands that those who are irresponsible, and therefore more likely to be bad parents, are statistically more likely to reproduce.
    Yeah, that does suck! That means we're inevitably surrounded by idiots!

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    what a world.
    In deed! It's makes for an interesting trip!!!
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    What really sucks is smart people with no kids and stupid hillbillies with 10+, or is where I live getting to me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiosity
    What really sucks is smart people with no kids and stupid hillbillies with 10+, or is where I live getting to me?
    It's that way in Atlanta, too. But the stupidity isn't limited to the hillbillies, here. Many of the soccer moms and dads of Alpharetta ("the" suburb for familes) seemed to be drinking the same water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4M
    *Some* of us don't judge you for your choice.

    Don't make the same mistake, and judge me for choosing differently to you.


    Fair enough?

    C!
    Fair enough. Please note that I included the rofl figure then followed my "biting" statement with "But seriously". It was meant as a joke.
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    im tired of watching people on jerry springer. To be honest id shoot the dumb ****s. Kinda off subject, there is this crack head girl down town, where im working at right now. Every time i see her she begs for money. If i had my way id just shoot her. Now there is a lady that is quiet and picks up cans on the side of the street and down in the creeks. Shes an older lady, i wish someone would lend her a hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4M
    Figured that was likely the case. Didn't want this thread turn into another breeder basher (I've had enough of those threads elsewhere)!

    C!
    Nah! We (my fiance and I) reserve the breeder-bashing for our table conversations when "parents" allow their kids to run around restaurants (and even bars) like they're on a playground. I could never be a waiter!
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