Novell Login...

**gameboy** · 06-12-2005, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by UK_MP3Car

Get hold of a copy of Winternals Emergency Boot Disk, this will allow you to access the hard drive by booting from CD-ROM and should also allow you to change the administrators password. Alternatively, I'd take the drive out of the laptop, connect it to an adapter and format in a desktop.

if u read his post u would notice he has no cd-rom drive

as alternative tho, you may want to check the laptop to see if the floppy drive is hot-swappable with another drive(my gateway laptop is like that) and if so

or

for a cd-rom drive for it

or you could always use an external cd-rom or external hard drive to get started assuming the bios can initilize the drive for you from a DOS boot disk(some bios support this some dont)

**shakes** · 06-12-2005, 12:34 PM

sounds like he doesn't have an xp disk either

**shakes** · 06-12-2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by PatO

And Novell sucks because it's an ADDITIONAL logon step. Windows must authenticate, that's 10sec minimum, as well as Novell, another 10 sec's. As a user, (my admin days are over) having to wait to use my computer is a nusance. Oh, and don't forget the often experienced Windows-Novell password sync problems! God forbid something should get screwed up while I change my password (every 3 months), then I'm forced to deal with logging in TWICE!

Now, I must admit, it's not that I'm necesarily against Novell. I'm against the incompatibilities between Windoze and Novell. At one time, they were happy bedfellows. Nowadays, they don't play well together.

a properly functioning novell system should take less than 2 secs to authenticate, but i digress.

most of what you say here is true, but it's a result of users being MORONS, not novell sucking. M$ wants people to use a 100% M$ system, and since they control their OS, Novell has been fighting a loosing game for a number of years.

That's why they've bought suse and have been pushing Linux integration so hard lately.

**Shelbrain** · 06-12-2005, 01:45 PM

I reformatted the drive and all is good...

**SilVert** · 06-14-2005, 10:55 AM

With the latest novell client(and possibly ZFD) you can tell the "Windows" logon to show but novell to authenticate in the backround.

we have that option here at work, i cant remember if there is anything special that needs to be done on the server side, but the option is out there..

now, i am M$ guy, but IMO novell has its upsides. EDirectory is mature and works very well. not many patches and the servers are very stable(or in my experiances). AD is Very nice as well, and it is awsome that it makes some of the administration tasks easyer by central managment for windows servers and workstations(things that novell has done for a while yes). also, Novell SHINES with Zenworks for desktops. that makes my job SOOO much easyer.

**Custommx3** · 06-14-2005, 11:41 AM

Ive been using novell since v3. As far as the windows authentication discussion is concerned, as long as "Zenworks for desktops" is installed the login is one single step. Also Iprint is badass, as well as Ifolder (you can sync documents from PCs to the server without having to upload them. Once uploaded, the files can be accessed via the web. I can also log into the network via the web and access my files remotley (not to a PC, directly to the server)

One thing novell has w/ Zenworks. I can put an icon on a users desktop for an app. Once its clicked the app is auto installed ( or I can force install it). If the user has any issues with the program, the user simply right clicks, selects verify, and the program is reloaded. And its very easy to maintain.

..BTW, for those who didnt know. Novell is Linux based now. And I wonder which is more stable of the two

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I wish I had a picture of my uptime on my server. I didnt have to reboot it for over 6 months, it was rebooted because of an upgrade. Most stable system Ive ever used.