ANTI UK SAT Tracked Car Tax Petition...

**chewiee** · 06-12-2005, 05:33 PM

Please forward this to anyone you know in the UK... its not another crappy good luck mail, but a serious one, governing UK vehicle owners.

The UK Government are looking to tax drivers based on what roads your travel and at what time. This is an erosion of our rights people, please give your support and visit http://www.petitiononline.com/roadtax and sign the petition if you agree that we shouldn't go ahead with it.

In this scheme all UK vehicles will be fitted with a 'black box' GPS device enabling them to monitor the whereabouts of all native vehicles in the UK at any time. How long will it be before they want to monitor our whereabouts at all times? It can't be done all at once, but this is yet another step in that direction.

Drivers will be taxed depending on what roads they use, with costs being around 2 pence per mile on rural roads up to £1.34 per mile on busier roads such as the M25 London orbital road.

This is an invasion of our privacy, and yet another chip away at our rights of freedom. Had this been suggested in any of the european countries, we would be experiencing some sort of national strike. But seeing as this is the UK, we will all lie back and accept it. I don't want this to happen, and this petition has been put together to voice our opinion.

Although this scheme is set to come into play in 15 years time, pilot schemes are planned in major cities within five years. The costs involved will be similar to the recently abolished Identity Card scheme that was planned for all UK residents. This scheme alone cost the UK Tax Payer millions!

We already pay around 90% duty on petrol and deisel and annually have to pay for VED (Road Tax). Under this new scheme, these will be reduced or abolished, but we believe that motorists will end up paying more.

Visit www.petitiononline.com/roadtax for more info.

Chewiee

**Pudge** · 06-12-2005, 05:37 PM

Dude that blows!

**redmage** · 06-12-2005, 06:59 PM

This "scheme" ( as it is so well referred to as ) is all ready in play in Oregon, USA on all government vehicles. But it's not to prevent over crowding of highways. It's just another form of control and to spy on us. They claim it's a more accurate manner of taxing because those who's vehicles take more gas to travel the same distance some can travel with less fuel, will all be taxed equally by distance not quantity of fuel.

If these trials prove well, expect every state in the US to follow ( be required to... )

**Scouse Monkey** · 06-13-2005, 09:28 AM

***** me! 2p a mile in rural is terrible and £1.34 is obcene!

Taxing motorists like that hits those of use with fuel efficnet cars more than those with fuel guzzling ones.

They plan on reducing the fuel tax - WHICH IS LONG OVERDUE - but then people with big fuel guzzling cars will pay the same tax per mile as those of us with fuel efficent cars. And who drives fuel guzzling cars? People with BMWs, Mercs etc etc - ie the rich.

Yet again the UK government opens the gap between the rich and the poor.

Take me and my car as an example:

1 tank of petrol: £45
motorway miles per tank: 400+
urban miles per tank: 250
rural miles per tank: 300-350

At the moment most of my fuel gets eaten up doing local driving next year it might be rural-motorway-urban for 18 miles a day each way.

My current car tax for a 1.6 £170 (more than a new Ferrari any other new car - despite the fact my car is in good shape and actually easily passed the MOT with a hole in the exhaust - got a new one spare at my dads)

so if i come to work 4 days a week we are looking at about 7200 miles a year. At about 350 miles per tank: £925 on fuel a year.

At 2p per mile tax that then adds: £144

but you can bet that the M4, M32 and city centre driving are not going to be 2p per mile. More like 10-50p per mile. True my fuel bills could come down but even if the tax was on average 10p per mile i am looking at £720 a year in tax for getting to work and back!

**Gobby** · 06-13-2005, 09:30 AM

Let alone remote monitoring of speed!!! With the possibility of automatic fines/points .... ouch! Thats me banned within 30 minutes!

**Scouse Monkey** · 06-13-2005, 11:09 AM

next they will try and make your ECU limit your speed based on what road you are on! how safe would that be. You pull out to overtake a cyclist - someone pulls out of a road up ahead and you need to put your foot down to get past the cyclist safely but oh no your car wont let you! nice!