Thread: What ****es me off about Katrina's aftermath

It's terrible to hear that people are looting and resorting to uncivilized behavior. But what I find even more concerning is that troops and police officers are having to stop searching and rescuing people in order to contain looters.

Looters are indirectly killing other people. Officials need to focus on saving people and forget about people stealing, thats what insurance is for.

Having been hit directly by katrina when it was a cat 1, I can't imagine how horrific it must have been to experience a cat 5. I thought I had it bad after losing power for a week and over $10,000 in business losses, but I really had no idea.

Its been a bad few years for America lately I can see that it has been ever since our latest president took office. But i hope we are almost at the end and we can get on a nice 5 years of the great stuff like going to mars and getting fusion working. We need to get back on the top of making advancements that change the world and less time counting our dead......

Originally Posted by blasterguy128

But what I find even more concerning is that troops and police officers are having to stop searching and rescuing people in order to contain looters.

So true.....

Originally Posted by RoyN

What are you implying? Its fine to steal from people/companies that are well off??? What kind of jealous *******'s opinion is that?
(obviously Wal-Mart isnt the only business being looted, so he wasnt merely stating that Wal-Mart had "little")

Clearly Darque wasnt saying that walmart was the only buisness being looted, but I found it particularly disconcerting that this was his choice of an example for which I am to feel sorry for the business owner. I am not taking away what little they have, because they open a new store every three days or some ridiculous **** like that. Wal-Mart is a trans-national billion, nay trillion dollar company, and if most of my life's belongings just got washed away by a hurricane, I don't think I would have a problem taking some stuff from the Wal. This isn't to say it is the morally right thing to do, but life is not black and white....

I hope I misunderstood what you said...

I'm afraid you did not. At least not entirely. I am not morally condoning stealing from people, but if you were just the victim of such an awful natural disaster, and you're gonna steal some ****, I think Wal Mart aint a bad place to do it.

Originally Posted by DarquePervert

I was getting ready early this morning to go see a client and had CNN on. Naturally, they were covering the aftermath of hurricaine Katrina.
One big problem is looting in New Orleans.

Yes, New Orleans as a disproportionate amount of impoverished citizens. I've been there and have seen it firsthand.
Yes, food and potable water are scarce to say the least.
There are some things I can actually understand people taking off of store shelves: food, water, medications, first-aid supplies, diapers, baby formula...
There's some things that are a stretch, but are sort of reasonable...
Clothing, since people have no way to clean clothing that could now be disease-infested.
Cellphone batteries, since there's no power to recharge one and cellphones are the only means of communication right now.

But what in the **** possesses people to steal microwaves and blenders from a Wal-Mart in a city that has no electricity? What's the ******* point?

OK, so CNN took the high ground and was interviewing some looters. The general consensus is that the people lsot everything. I have no doubt about that.
The business owners they're looting from are losing nearly everything as well. You're taking away what little they have.

They don't seem to realize that it's the business owners that are going to rebuild the city. It's the business owners that create jobs (assuming the looters are even willing to work int he first place). You take away what little they have after a devastating event like Katrina, and they're not going to want to come back and rebuild. I certainly wouldn't want to own a business in New Orleans knowing that in the face of a disaster the community that I serve is going to rip me the **** off.

When the big blackout happened a few years ago, there was minimal looting, even in a large, supposedly mean & bitter city like New York. Why? I really don't know, but the city of New York (which I really don't like, having been there a few times) commands more respect than the city of New Orleans (which I *do* like, having been there several times).
It's not so much the city itself, but the people that live there, I guess.

Well, NY has a nice police department

Here's what I don't get: if you build a city in a bowl, sooner or later, that bowl might get filled up... especially when that area is in danger for getting struck with hurricanes.
So lets see what's left of the city: lots of blacks looting (on TV, I haven't seen one caucasian looting (probably because they were smart enough to get the **** out of there)) And let me guess, when they will try to rebuild the city, they will want the aid of the tax payers for their stupidity (of building the city under sea level).


Oh, and I actually have to look like I give a **** because I'm my school's treasurer, and we're doing a Katrina fundraiser

Originally Posted by kevinlekiller

I guess(I dont know) the black people in new orleans are more poor than the whitw , so their mentality is maybe not the same on looting.

Well, that doesn't excuse anything. The law applies to all.

Originally Posted by Cartunes

That has got to be the most stupid thing I have ever heard! Where are you from anyways? Iraq? I am proud to help my fellow americans, and friens of this great country! we just need to get a new president!

Yes... the president is all powerful. He can now cause natural disasters. Quick.... take cover!

Originally Posted by 84RegalRider

Its been a bad few years for America lately I can see that it has been ever since our latest president took office. But i hope we are almost at the end and we can get on a nice 5 years of the great stuff like going to mars and getting fusion working. We need to get back on the top of making advancements that change the world and less time counting our dead......

Okay wake up. Getting to Mars would have almost NO benefit to us at this time. It isn't going to be liveable, and for a manned mission we could send something like 10k unmanned, which at this time can actually run better more efficient tests.

And again, wake up, this era is the LEAST dead counting we have done. Remember that little war Vietnam... WWII, WWI, etc. etc. One thing the administration has SUCKED at is advertising the fact this is a full scale war, yes our death toll is not a *good* thing, but considering the facts it is pretty damn impressive.

Originally Posted by blasterguy128

Looters are indirectly killing other people. Officials need to focus on saving people and forget about people stealing, thats what insurance is for.

Horribly untrue. There is nothing indirect about it. People are raping one another, gangs are rising, forming, killing without fear (its not really hard to hide in this area after all). There is *nothing* indirect about it. Also what are the local police supposed to do? They aren't outfitted to handle a catastrophe like this... these kind of rescues take helicopters, boats, tons of equipment.

And after conisdering those facts, only 1,500 cops have been assigned to do "Whatever it takes" to restore order. Frankly $50 says we see some dead looters and the chaos calms down pretty quickly, not completly but it will dwindle. People think they are all badass but there is a big difference when the worst you expect is being told to go put **** you stole back, compared to being shot at. That is the beuty of marshall law.

Police officers have also been "breaking into" stores only to find most the weapons have already been stolen, yea these are law abiding people that need saving, they are taking the guns because they want to sell them on ebay. And yes there have been reports, and evidence supports it, that many police have actually resorted to looting. Many stories sound like they may be trying to protect a lot of the goods, after all everything is destroyed so from an economic standpoint business owners with insurance may actually have a bright future when thousands of familes need to buy new TVs, and that generates a lot of taxes. But what happens when hundreds have already stolen new TVs?

Anyway, yes the New Orleans is one of the more corrupt police departments, but it has improved. So frankly when you are dealing with A) Police just plain not equipped to handle this disaster, B) Local police, C) potentially corrupt police... it may be more efficient to get some of them out of the "rescue" process.

As for the "local police" argument. These people are all still thinking about their family and whether they have food or not etc. States should "trade" national guard with bordering states so that in the event of an emergency those attempting to control the disaster aren't dealing with the disaster on a personal level.

EDIT: I forgot to add about the prison break where the prisoners held the children hostage... that was some indirect crime if I have ever seen, and insurance will fix those rapes and murders up real quick! =P Only in South Africa is there rape insurance.

As for the "Bad Bush" argument. It seems all the compelling anti-Bush propaganda raising already is clearly just that, worthless propaganda.

Probably the most "promissing" is when he cut a study that was going to investigate this exact potential of a devasting hurricane hitting the area. What the left will forget to mention is he cut the "study" a year ago, had the study even started by now (very unlikely) it is impossible to think they would have come to any conclusions, and by some magic chance they had, even Bill Clinton, anyone short of God himself, could have made the propossed changes by now.

Thats the criticism that seems to be growing the fastest and have the "most" bearing and "truth" (or rather a leftist interpertation of what truth is).