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    Is anyone else addicted to the UFC?

    Does anyone else even know what the UFC is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
    Is anyone else addicted to the UFC?

    Does anyone else even know what the UFC is?

    Im assuming you are talking about the cage fight? I been following it since the early 90s, then BJJ became so big, ah man gracie is so boring

    It got abit boring when they started adding more rules though.

    I hope you are not one of those guys that think cage fight is the ultimate ****, cause it aint...its no where near a real fight.

    How about getting hit with a rattan stick on a head with no protection at all?
    Check out some dog brothers stuff, they are more brutal, infact there are some fights that are far more brutal than them


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    nope not one of those guys at all, not one of those...not me, not at all, not a guy

    btw - it's a REAL turn off when people talk ****....I'm tougher than this other guy, I'm more hard core than this other guy, etc, etc....shows nothing more than insecurity

    I like UFC because I like the discipline, I like MMA, and I like the sportsmanship, I like the fact that it's not full of drama (unlike wrestling).

    So sorry if it's not your cup o tea, I happen to really enjoy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
    nope not one of those guys at all, not one of those...not me, not at all, not a guy

    btw - it's a REAL turn off when people talk ****....I'm tougher than this other guy, I'm more hard core than this other guy, etc, etc....shows nothing more than insecurity

    I like UFC because I like the discipline, I like MMA, and I like the sportsmanship, I like the fact that it's not full of drama (unlike wrestling).

    So sorry if it's not your cup o tea, I happen to really enjoy it
    Now you got me confused...so you are not a guy then, was that a common knowledge?

    Sorry if I assumed you are a guy. Almost every guy who talked to me about cage fight insist that it is the best, nothing is close to reality, nothing beats them, they are the best in streetfights, bla, bla.

    Wrestling? no way, you cant compare cage fight to wrestling, specially those US wrestling

    I didnt say its not my cup of tea, if you watched the first few UFC fight compared to the one like now, the rules are are different. Even the fights are different, back then alot didnt know how to deal with grapplers, so many tend to be stand up fighters, heres come the grapplers and put every one on the floor. Boring fights but there alot to be learnt from them for sure. This was when alot would argue that grappling is the best for streetfights, well its not, no way one can graple a knife fighter.

    I though you wanted to do some cage fights, reason why you started a thread

    Sorry if I my view is a little different from what you expected, thats only because Im a martial artist...a stand up one too

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    As far as unarmed, one-on-one combat goes, UFC is as close to a real fight as you'll get without risking some pretty bad injuries. True, street fights will have knifes, blunt objects, biting, kicking while the opponent is down, groin and eye attacks, and probably won't be one-on-one, but that's not what UFC is about Could you picture fights going on TV regularly where they are allowed to bring a knife? I wouldn't even want to watch that kind of fight...

    I started playing Judo last spring and I love it. I was never into UFC before that, but now I love watching how much damage these guys can do with just the weapons they were born with - I think it's pretty amazing.
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    UFC is intense...I trained for cage fighting for two and a half years...and yeah, it's not for everybody. No matter how many arts you master, there's always somebody who can teach you something...the difference is that in cage fighting, the lessons hurt a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPI Geek
    As far as unarmed, one-on-one combat goes, UFC is as close to a real fight as you'll get without risking some pretty bad injuries. True, street fights will have knifes, blunt objects, biting, kicking while the opponent is down, groin and eye attacks, and probably won't be one-on-one, but that's not what UFC is about Could you picture fights going on TV regularly where they are allowed to bring a knife? I wouldn't even want to watch that kind of fight...

    I started playing Judo last spring and I love it. I was never into UFC before that, but now I love watching how much damage these guys can do with just the weapons they were born with - I think it's pretty amazing.
    No doubt those cage fighters are like killing machine when you go by their rules. True, cage fight is probably as close you can get to a real one on one fights.

    In a real streetfights, theres no rule, no referee to stop you from dying, everything goes even till death. Its just a sad when some of these MMA guys think they can take on anyone on the street...just because of the impression they get from watching the cage fights.

    I do alot of knife works, and I tell ya, Ill run away from it if given a chance... I know I will get cut, how badly cut Im gonna get that determine if Im gonna live or not.


    Heard about this guy >>>

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=3459

    Theres a story about a grappler and a knife fighter. He wanted to challenge the knife man, he reckon he can put the guy down on the floor and make him submit. The knife man stabbed him in the arm

    I trained last week with my friend, its my friend whos teaching, hes a cage fighter trainer. Because hes training is geared toward winning in the cage, I though wow, these guys are too nice. I though why should I bother with some of the techniques when I can rip the guys eye out. Dont get me wrong, his ground work is excellent but its application in a real street fight can be questionable. Sliding the body around the mat and your cheek pressed down on the mat...try that on a hard concrete out on the street

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    Yeah, but like 70% of street fights end up with two people wrestling on the ground...put a professional grappler in that situation and all you can do is feel sorry for the other guy who didn't know what he was getting himself into. You can knock a grappler down, but all you've succeeded in doing is giving him homefield advantage...

    ...knife fighting is a different story. When you start getting into weapons, anything can happen...
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    My Judo instructor tries to teach us the difference between a real fight and a match when he goes over new material. One of his former students called right before practice one day, claiming that Judo saved his life. He was at a gas station, was attacked by some gang members, and got stabbed in the back (his heavy jacket prevented any serious injury from that). They cut off his path back to his car and surrounded him, so he went into attack mode.

    You say you're familiar with martial arts, so you probably know the move, but maybe not by its Judo name: Osoto Gari. He used a street combat version of the move and took 2 of the guys down at once (luck) and they all got cold feet and bugged out.

    Basically, Osoto Gari is where you unbalance your opponent backwards and ideally slightly to one side, and you then clip their load-bearing foot out from under them (step past them and hook their heel with yours), making them fall down hard. He unbalanced the guy by bringing his palm upwards into the guy's jaw and driving his head backwards into the guy behind him, breaking the second guy's nose - why one was behind the other is beyond me but lucky for him. If you don't know how to fall properly, it's a very painful experience, and these guys were on pavement at a gas station, and were definitely untrained in how to fall.

    That was long-winded, but the point that I was trying to get at is the same as what you're saying: the "real" Osoto Gari doesn't involve jamming up on the opponent's jaw and will in fact get you a penalty if you use it in a match, but the streets don't have rules. If I'd done that move and thought the fight would go on, I probably wouldn't have taken any risks and made sure that the guy was out of the fight for good by stomping down hard on his collarbone or something... Then again I've never been in a real fight so what I say here and what would have really happened are probably very different
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPI Geek
    My Judo instructor tries to teach us the difference between a real fight and a match when he goes over new material. One of his former students called right before practice one day, claiming that Judo saved his life. He was at a gas station, was attacked by some gang members, and got stabbed in the back (his heavy jacket prevented any serious injury from that). They cut off his path back to his car and surrounded him, so he went into attack mode.

    You say you're familiar with martial arts, so you probably know the move, but maybe not by its Judo name: Osoto Gari. He used a street combat version of the move and took 2 of the guys down at once (luck) and they all got cold feet and bugged out.

    Basically, Osoto Gari is where you unbalance your opponent backwards and ideally slightly to one side, and you then clip their load-bearing foot out from under them (step past them and hook their heel with yours), making them fall down hard. He unbalanced the guy by bringing his palm upwards into the guy's jaw and driving his head backwards into the guy behind him, breaking the second guy's nose - why one was behind the other is beyond me but lucky for him. If you don't know how to fall properly, it's a very painful experience, and these guys were on pavement at a gas station, and were definitely untrained in how to fall.

    That was long-winded, but the point that I was trying to get at is the same as what you're saying: the "real" Osoto Gari doesn't involve jamming up on the opponent's jaw and will in fact get you a penalty if you use it in a match, but the streets don't have rules. If I'd done that move and thought the fight would go on, I probably wouldn't have taken any risks and made sure that the guy was out of the fight for good by stomping down hard on his collarbone or something... Then again I've never been in a real fight so what I say here and what would have really happened are probably very different
    Glad he made it though.

    Like whats been said before, alot of the fight will end up in the ground. If he did ended up on the ground with that many opponents then he would be in alot of trouble. Reason why I teach dirty tricks to students just to win the fight, bringing one down doesnt mean the fight is over, there could well be more comming up armed. I dont beleive in fairness when it comes to reality, after all you dont even know whats comming. Heck if I can run him over with the car I will.

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