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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafster
    They're still roaming.... it's not their "home area".... think about back in the day when all you could really get that was affordable were Local Plans...
    I used to think that roaming means that one couldn't get a digital signal.
    I guess having towers from the network in other places, sort of beats the purpuse of going 'out there' to roam; therefore, if your sister is roaming in L.A., she's still using Cingular towers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafster
    Hmm, it's an interesting idea.... though I don't think it would work. My sister (The one who just got married) moved to D.C. and is using a San Diego number on her cell phone. My other sister is living in Los Angeles and will be moving to Texas with her Sandiego number for a year.

    I doubt that Cingular would drop us (even if we were crazy enough to want them to ). Cmon, there are 52+ million customers. Cingular and all other providers don't just make money on your monthly service charge. The biggest profit is users going over their minutes, then Txt, MMS, and internet...

    They make more than enough money from us that making even $250 in roaming calls, would not make it worth it for them to drop it's customers.

    just my .02

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    wtf

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    cingular loses money when they have to pay tmobile/otehr GSM providers of use of THEIR towers


    how would cingular lose money if a cell phone registered in one city is used ON ANOTHER CINGULAR TOWER

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    furthermore, you can set some phones to roam only.

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    Rafster, the difference would be that they're roaming on the same network. If they were connecting with another carrier's towers.. its a whole different kind of roaming. Cell carriers have to pay the other companies in order for their subscribers to have service. For instance, in canada. Telus and Bell have an agreement that allows both of their subscribers to use each others towers. It doesn't cost them anything, since they're fairly even in towers and users, they trade even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman100
    wtf

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    cingular loses money when they have to pay tmobile/otehr GSM providers of use of THEIR towers


    how would cingular lose money if a cell phone registered in one city is used ON ANOTHER CINGULAR TOWER
    Actually, at least here in California, T-mobile rents there towers from Cingular... In the east coast T-mobile uses Voicestream's old towers...

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    P.S. I didn't say that it costs them more or anything when your roaming on their network. I just made a point that if you leave your home area, you are physically "roaming" even if you/they are not being charged extra...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafster
    Actually, at least here in California, T-mobile rents there towers from Cingular... In the east coast T-mobile uses Voicestream's old towers...

    Peace,

    Rafster

    P.S. I didn't say that it costs them more or anything when your roaming on their network. I just made a point that if you leave your home area, you are physically "roaming" even if you/they are not being charged extra...

    While You are correct Raf, that is not what the article is referring to. The article refers to Roaming out of the providers service area. Since NYC, and LA are both Cingular, you are not out of your service providers area, even though you are out of your Home area. Home area only matters if you have a non national plan. Where you number is "registered" means nothing to the Cell provider. FOr that matter, if you sisters went to San Francisco, they are out of thier Home Location cause they have SD numbers, correct. Cingular doesn't care because they are using thier own towers (and while T-Mobile "leases" tower space, no matter how many mninutes t-mobile users use the tower, T-Mobile still pays a set fee, so there is no increase in cost for T-Mobile)

    However, if I go to podunk no where, and have to use the tower of "Local Cell Service" because Cingular has no tower there, Local Cell Service can charge Cingular as much as they want. Since I only pay Cingular 50 bucks for my 1000 minutes, if Local Cell Service says "Hey, we charge 50 cents a minute) and I spend 100 minutes on a call, Cingular just got dinged for 50 bucks. That, they will not like.

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    Three years ago, I spent the month of February working in Toronto and using my Texas based Verizon phone. They were charging me about $2 a minute for every minute I used it in Canada. There were no "free nights and weekends". Then I spent April to July in Boston. I never went over my 400 plan minutes but I used it plenty on nights and weekends. My phone barely worked in my hotel because it was always roaming and switching from analog to digital service. I didn't get any letters, warnings or other cancelation threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyFitz
    Three years ago, I spent the month of February working in Toronto and using my Texas based Verizon phone. They were charging me about $2 a minute for every minute I used it in Canada. There were no "free nights and weekends". Then I spent April to July in Boston. I never went over my 400 plan minutes but I used it plenty on nights and weekends. My phone barely worked in my hotel because it was always roaming and switching from analog to digital service. I didn't get any letters, warnings or other cancelation threats.
    Verizon doesn't charge when you roam into analog... They do have (or at least used to have) their own analog towers....

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