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    Low Bitrate Goofus's Avatar
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    Some dick tried to scam me with Tool tickets

    I was desperate for Tool tickets and I found someone on craigslist selling a set for $150/ea, http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/tix/159564961.html which is quite a bit cheaper than anyone else. Here's how it went. The final response is funny.

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    [email protected] wrote:

    Do you still have these tickets available? If so, are you willing to separate them? Iím looking for two.

    Thanks,
    J


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:43 PM
    To: J
    Subject: Re: 4 TOOL tickets for New York, MAY 19 at The City Center - $600

    Hello

    The tickets are still available.
    I need to sell them asap because I am not in the US and I will not be going to the concert.
    I am now in Manchester, United Kingdom.
    I will pay for an overnight delivery so if we both move fast you can receive the tickets in less than 1 day.
    The tickets were bought by my company as a bonus on a deal for a customer from the US. Unfortunatelly the deal did not go through and now we are stuck with the tickets. I would hate to see the tickets go to waste. We can have the deal asap.
    Obviously we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after.
    I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the tickets in less than 1 day, if you move fast as well.
    The solution is provided by a international company called TNT which is similar to Fedex, DHL or UPS, which will handle the payment and delivery of the tickets.
    With this procedure I will only receive the payment for the tickets after you will receive them and see that they are genuine.
    Please click on the link below to the TNT website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained.

    http://express-manchester-tnt.com/ov...s/details.html

    Like I said, I will pay for an overnight delivery so you will receive them in time.

    Let me know what you think

    Carrie


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    A pretty obvious scam to me, but I'll play along for fun.

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    [email protected] wrote:

    Ok that sounds fine. Is it $600 for the 4 of them? Like I said before, Iím only really looking for two, but I suppose I could sell the other two.

    Thanks,
    J


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    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:25 PM
    To: Jamie Hutchins
    Subject: RE: 4 TOOL tickets for New York, MAY 19 at The City Center - $600

    Hello

    Yes, the price is 600US$ for all 4.
    Send me your name and address and I will make the delivery arrangements.

    Let me know

    Carrie


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    I ran a whois on the site and found it had been registered yesterday by

    Jeanne S. Schwarz
    12206 Bowling Street
    Cumberland, MD 21502

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    [email protected] wrote:
    Send them to:

    Jeanne S. Schwarz
    12206 Bowling Street
    Cumberland, MD 21502

    Thanks,
    J


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    Hello

    I have placed the ticket in TNT custody.
    TNT told me they will contact you to your e-mail later today with their confirmation and with the instruction you will need to complete your end of the deal. Please complete your end at your earliest.

    Please keep me posted

    Carrie


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    I guess the dumbass didn't recognize the fake address that he had just used about 18 hours earlier. Shortly after, I received a couple of "official" looking emails with Western Union and wire transfer instructions.

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    [email protected] wrote:
    Ok, Iíll send the money as soon as I can. This didnít appear to be a valid address though. Can you verify it? I just wanted to make sure the money would get to you.

    Also you sound quite lovely. I travel to the UK frequently. Perhaps we could go on a date next time Iím in town. Iím very attractive. Could you send me your picture?

    First name Carrie
    Last name Porter
    Address 21 Frinton Road
    City/State Manchester
    Zip(City Code) M45 9PE
    Country United Kingdom


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    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:06 PM
    To: J
    Subject: RE: 4 TOOL tickets for New York, MAY 19 at The City Center - $600

    Hello

    Now I realized what you have done... You wasted my time...
    Thanks for nothing... Can't a guy make a living here without everyone being a critic????

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    This is one of the emails I got:

    From: TNT Customer Service [[email protected]]
    Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:28 AM
    To: J
    Subject: TNT Transaction Details - Payment Instructions


    Please use this Number
    to track your package.
    *GE25501960GB*

    Important TNT Payment Instructions/Shipment Details
    Please read the Instructions carefully.
    Reference Number: 25501960**
    Click here to track your package: Tracking


    Dear TNT Customer,

    We have your package in our custody.

    Description of goods: (4) TOOL Tickets
    Sender of package ( Seller ): Carrie Porter
    Receiver of package ( Buyer ): Jeanne S. Schwarz

    Delivery Address:

    Address: 12206 Bowling Street
    City / State: Cumberland / Maryland
    Zip(City Code): 21502
    Country: USA

    Delivery Type: TNT Express Overnight Delivery - After the Payment is received and verified by TPG - TNT
    Amount to be paid by the Buyer: US $600.00

    Important Note: The payment must not be made using Western Union's Send Money Online Service due to the high Credit Card fraud risk. We will not confirm any payments made online.
    The Payment must be made at one of Western Union's Agent Locations, in person by the Buyer.

    The Payment must be made through:

    ** Western Union Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $4,999,99 / £ 2,800.00
    Money Orders or Checks - for amounts between US $5,000.00 and US $7,500.00 / £2,801.00 - £ 4,500.00
    Direct Bank to Bank Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $10,000.00 / £ 5,600.00

    IMPORTANT** : The TNT Payment Policy for this transaction is through Western Union Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $4,999.99 / £ 2,800.00. Your payment cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.

    Receiver of the Payment - TNT Agent - Instructions

    You must go to a Western Union Agent Location and make a Money Transfer to the Name of the TNT Agent who is responsible with this transaction - George Walters.
    In order to complete the Money Transfer you will need the Payment Details of our TNT Agent:






    First Name: George
    Last Name: Walters
    Address: 419 Bury New Road
    City: Manchester
    Zip(City Code): M25 1AA
    Country: United Kingdom

    History : George Walters is TNT Agent, TPG Logistics UK. Since joining TNT-TPG in 1991, George has held a number of senior roles. He has led several financial projects and established sound commercial and financial control policies. In 2001, George was promoted to his current position, where he takes responsibility for TNT Logistics UKís commercial, accounting and financial activities.

    With these information you must fill in the Western Union " To Send Money Form " and complete the money transfer to the Name of the TNT Agent.
    After you complete the payment you need to send the Payment Information for verification to our Payment Department at their e-mail address: TNT On-Line Payment Service
    The Payment Information that you need to send to us for verification are:
    - MTCN - Money Transfer Control Number
    - Sender's Name and Sender's Address
    - Amount Transferred

    Payment Privacy Policy :

    1.The Payment will be sent to the Seller by TNT only after you receive the package, check the merchandise and if you are completely satisfied with it, you will then instruct us to release the Payment to the Seller.
    2.TNT acts as a third party holding at the same time the merchandise and the Payment.
    3. After the merchandise is received by the Buyer, the Buyer will have up to 21 days depending on the nature of the merchandise to review the merchandise.
    For transaction No. 25501960 the inspection time is 5 ( five ) business days.
    a) If the Buyer decided to keep the merchandise the Buyer will instruct TNT to release the funds to the Seller.
    b) If for any reason the Buyer does not want to keep the merchandise, the Buyer will ask TNT to be refunded.
    The refund procedure is very simple, the Buyer will receive the money from TNT through Bank to Bank Wire Transfer, or by Check or by Western Union Money Transfer.
    The refund method is at the Buyer's choice.



    Thank you for using TNT
    Richard McGregor-TNT Customer Department

    Manchester Depot
    419 Bury New Road
    Manchester
    M25 1AA
    Customer Department
    General Manager: Robert Kay
    Email: TNT On-Line Customer Service

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    Unfortunately I started the conversation with a work email address, so I didn't want to get too carried away. You guys are welcome to have at him though.

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    Tonights tickets in MPLS were going for over $1000 on Ebay. The original lot sold out in less than ONE MINUTE! 93X (radio station) was warning people not to buy from scalpers... Tool apparently is making a return run here in the fall.
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    Ne1 recognize the avatar?

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    Yep, it's totally crazy. They say not to buy from scalpers, but I swear the scalpers are the only ones who have tickets. These are small venues, yet there are literally hundreds of tickets being sold by scalpers for each show. I wouldn't be surprised if Ticketmaster let certain businesses buy in advance for an extra fee.

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    I just wanted to thank you for posting your experience with this person. Google search is a wonderful thing. I received almost an identical email from Carrie Porter regarding Miami Heat tickets:

    "Hello

    The tickets are still available. The price is 1000US$ for all 4.
    I need to sell them asap because I am not in the US and I will not be going to the game.
    I am now in Manchester, United Kingdom.
    I will pay for an overnight delivery so if we both move fast you can receive the tickets in less than 1 day.
    The tickets were bought by my company as a bonus on a deal for a customer from the US. Unfortunatelly the deal did not go through and now we are stuck with the tickets. I would hate to see the tickets go to waste. We can have the deal asap.
    Obviously we need a way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after.
    I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the tickets in less than 1 day, if you move fast as well.
    The solution is provided by a international company called TNT which is similar to Fedex, DHL or UPS, which will handle the payment and delivery of the tickets.
    With this procedure I will only receive the payment for the tickets after you will receive them and see that they are genuine.
    Please click on the link below to the TNT website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained.

    http://express-manchester-tnt.com/ov...s/details.html

    Like I said, I will pay for an overnight delivery so you will receive them in time.

    Let me know what you think

    Carrie"




    Sounded shady as hell, so a simple google search led me to this thread and a couple others.

    Thank you Goofus.

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    me too

    I almost fell for this! I am so glad I found your story. I recieved the exact same series of e-mails....only the names have changed.


    here is one of them.
    Delivery Type: TNT Express Overnight Delivery - After the Payment is received and verified by TPG - TNT
    Amount to be paid by the Buyer: US $400.00

    Important Note: The payment must not be made using Western Union's Send Money Online Service due to the high Credit Card fraud risk. We will not confirm any payments made online.
    The Payment must be made at one of Western Union's Agent Locations, in person by the Buyer.

    The Payment must be made through:

    ** Western Union Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $4,999,99 / £ 2,800.00
    Money Orders or Checks - for amounts between US $5,000.00 and US $7,500.00 / £2,801.00 - £ 4,500.00
    Direct Bank to Bank Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $10,000.00 / £ 5,600.00

    IMPORTANT** : The TNT Payment Policy for this transaction is through Western Union Money Transfer - for amounts up to US $4,999.99 / £ 2,800.00. Your payment cannot be lost in the mail, like money orders or checks.

    Receiver of the Payment - TNT Agent - Instructions

    You must go to a Western Union Agent Location and make a Money Transfer to the Name of the TNT Agent who is responsible with this transaction - David Fleming.
    In order to complete the Money Transfer you will need the Payment Details of our TNT Agent:






    First Name: David
    Last Name: Fleming
    Address: 419 Bury New Road
    City: Manchester
    Zip(City Code): M25 1AA
    Country: United Kingdom

    History : David Fleming is TNT Agent, TPG Logistics UK. Since joining TNT-TPG in 1991, David has held a number of senior roles. He has led several financial projects and established sound commercial and financial control policies. In 2001, David was promoted to his current position, where he takes responsibility for TNT Logistics UKís commercial, accounting and financial activities.

    With these information you must fill in the Western Union " To Send Money Form " and complete the money transfer to the Name of the TNT Agent.
    After you complete the payment you need to send the Payment Information for verification to our Payment Department at their e-mail address: TNT On-Line Payment Service
    The Payment Information that you need to send to us for verification are:
    - MTCN - Money Transfer Control Number
    - Sender's Name and Sender's Address
    - Amount Transferred

    Payment Privacy Policy :

    1.The Payment will be sent to the Seller by TNT only after you receive the package, check the merchandise and if you are completely satisfied with it, you will then instruct us to release the Payment to the Seller.
    2.TNT acts as a third party holding at the same time the merchandise and the Payment.
    3. After the merchandise is received by the Buyer, the Buyer will have up to 21 days depending on the nature of the merchandise to review the merchandise.
    For transaction No. 65501987 the inspection time is 5 ( five ) business days.
    a) If the Buyer decided to keep the merchandise the Buyer will instruct TNT to release the funds to the Seller.
    b) If for any reason the Buyer does not want to keep the merchandise, the Buyer will ask TNT to be refunded.
    The refund procedure is very simple, the Buyer will receive the money from TNT through Bank to Bank Wire Transfer, or by Check or by Western Union Money Transfer.
    The refund method is at the Buyer's choice.



    Thank you for using TNT
    Richard McGregor-TNT Customer Department

    Manchester Depot
    419 Bury New Road
    Manchester
    M25 1AA
    Customer Department
    General Manager: Robert Kay
    Email: TNT On-Line Customer Service

    © 1996-2006. TNT. All rights reserved.e

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    Talking

    I know this is an older thread, but the Consumerist (www.consumerist.com) just linked to this article regarding this same scam.

    http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/...tor-178720.php

    I guess they wont quit

    But since consumerist wont let me comment (no invite), I just thought I would share what I found:

    If you whois express-manchester-tnt.com, you get this information:

    Registrant Info:
    Community FCU
    Jeanne S. Schwarz
    12206 Bowling Street
    Cumberland, MD 21502
    US
    Phone: +1.3017292024
    Fax..: none
    Email: [email protected]


    If you google the phone number, you get this:

    Phonebook results for (301)729-2024
    Edward J Schwarz, (301) 729-2024, 12206 Bowling St, Cumberland, MD 21502 Google Maps Yahoo! Maps MapQuest

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

    And that phone number identifies as a Verizon phone number, so that's probably a land line.

    NPA/NXX (Area code and Prefix) match using my lookup tool (http://www.unf.net/npa)

    NPA: 301 NXX: 729
    Rate Center: CUMBERLAND
    Company: VERIZON MARYLAND, INC.
    State: MD

    And the property is indeed owned by this guy:

    http://sdatcert3.resiusa.org/rp_rewr...chType=Account

    And if you look on the whois information, it says community FCU. there is a First Peoples Community FCU in that town, yet no Schwarz works there. (http://www.firstpeoples.com/)

    Now the technical details I found:

    www.express-manchester-tnt.com has an IP address of 216.251.43.98. That belongs to www.megawebservers.com, which is based in Canada.

    if you go to www.express-manchester-tnt.com - you get redirected to the real people in the UK. Anything under this subdirectory: http://express-manchester-tnt.com/ov....transactions/ is hosted there.

    They used a microsoft product to modify these webpages. (see the meta tag: content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802" name=GENERATOR).

    There's a contact us option, it sends an email to [email protected]. Group-TNT.com is owned by:

    Registration Service Provided By: MSN Personal Address
    Contact: [email protected]
    Visit: http://support.msn.com/contactus.asp...ersonalAddress

    Domain name: group-tnt.com

    Registrant Contact:
    CHARLES FURRY
    CHARLES FURRY ([email protected])
    +1.9092441910
    Fax: none
    23461 CONTENINTAL DR
    CAYON LAKE, CA 92587
    US

    and hosted via hotmail. It redirects to a TNT site when you go to it via a web browser, but the email goes to hotmail.

    The transaction tracking is obviously fake. Simple PHP file to check for that one number, and then redirect to http://express-manchester-tnt.com/ov.../25501960.html. If you look in that file: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Zzzzz/Desktop/15501918/files/1x1.gif

    Bad HTML code == Microsoft Frontpage probably. I wish they used their real name as their login, instead of Zzzzz.

    --

    So this scam involves more than one person. It's probably some online kiddie group. They're smart, but not super smart. I would be curious to find out if Ed Schwarz is really the crook, a victim, or someone's dad. My guess is it's someone's dad.

    Sorry for all the boring details, i've had too many friends ripped off craigslist. I hope this information helps someone.

    Andy Goodwin
    (my not so updated blog: http://www.unf.net)

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    Remind me not to **** off andyg.
    Have you looked in the FAQ yet?
    How about the Wiki?



    Under normal circumstances, a signature would go here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarquePervert
    Remind me not to **** off andyg.
    Hahaha!

    Nah, I just get tired of people scamming. A friend of mine's dad got ripped off on craigslist over $100. The money doesnt make me mad, its the fact that his dad is new to technology, and now a memorable experience for him is getting ripped off on craigslist.

    That, and if you're going to scam, do it right. Dont put all your info up for everyone to find, or setup a corporation. Hell, that might even make it legal (kidding)

    Andy
    (www.unf.net)

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