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    Quote Originally Posted by Red GTi VR6
    Just remember - the actions of a government really have no bearing on how their people act...
    Only if it was so simple... u need to remember that just today... american missile killed among several human beings, two children. Since when u need missiles to kill child? Man, u r getting worse than Israelis.

    Its not like american people didnt ask for him. They already knew what kind warmonger he is... yet almost 50% re-elected him? where were those republicans who hate him on that day?

    EDIT: Were they hiding, cause voting democrat would probably mean no tax cuts? who gives a **** about iraqi children as long as i dont have to ride with hubcaps, rather vote maniac than democrat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P3rv3rt B3ar
    Only if it was so simple... u need to remember that just today... american missile killed among several human beings, two children. Since when u need missiles to kill child? Man, u r getting worse than Israelis.

    Its not like american people didnt ask for him. They already knew what kind warmonger he is... yet almost 50% re-elected him? where were those republicans who hate him on that day?

    EDIT: Were they hiding, cause voting democrat would probably mean no tax cuts? who gives a **** about iraqi children as long as i dont have to ride with hubcaps, rather vote maniac than democrat?

    I am NOT stooping to the level of arguing about explicit politics over the internet with someone I have never met. That's just short of being childish.

    I've got my own views of this war, and I'll tell you that they are NOT for Bush, however I believe that SOMEONE needed to do something and I'm disgusted that it took this long for it to happen.

    I will leave it at that. If you want to debate the current real world politics online with complete strangers, over the internet, I suggest you find someone else to do so with.

    Regarding your comment BioHazard:

    would a president who acted like they were unsure really be that much better?

    I guess what I'm getting at is that it's a catch-22

    Act like you believe fully in what you are doing or act like you are unsure, either way you're ****ed...I'd RATHER have a leader who believed 100% in what they were doing rather than one who flip-flipped about on issues.
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    Hitler too believed 100% what he was doing...

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    damn sdashiki, i hate you as I blame you for the war in iraq! yeah you!

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    no ****!?

    and look at how good he was at what he was doing!

    I'm not speaking of the mass genocide.

    I'm speaking of his ability to get people to follow, of being a LEADER. Most historians will tell you that he was one of the greatest leaders of all time.

    Now before you go and spin that completely off kilter and say I'm a hitler lover or some complete bull **** like that, I'm not.

    If you can't seperate the two, then you might not have the mental capacity to carry on this conversation.
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    There is a difference between politicly believe in what you are doing and know very well what is economicaly better for business companies in which you and your political friends are major shareholders. . .

    I don't know the US law, but at least in Europe, it's not an anti-patriotic act to criticize the government. And yes, I would prefer a president who is a little unsure to one who just gets his own interests through. Perhaps I'm to much naive for this world, but I believe in true politics, not in politics of personal interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P3rv3rt B3ar
    Hitler too believed 100% what he was doing...
    Your joking, right?

    And what about the ****ed up comment about the Israelis. Let me guess, you are an Arab or Muslim? If not, you sound like one.

    What should we be doing? What is the alternative? I am just curious what you think would be better. Mind you I also believe that no child deserves to die. However, your muslim/arab brothers think nothing of murdering innocent civilians and children. I have not heard of the incident of which you refer to, but do give more information. Perhaps it is like the Palestinians, who run into a Mosque to flea the army and wonder why the persuers don't just stand at the door and wait for the murderers to exit. Or perhaps it is like the Terrorists that hide with thier family and children, not caring that it puts thier family in danger. If you are so worried for your family, stay away from them to protect them.

    I find it interesting that people think that what the Americans are doing is horrible, yet let Saddam gas his own people, let the Palestinians blow up restaurants full of civilains. I know I know, it is all about the OIL. Well, I can come up with ulterior motives for everything, that doesn't make the ulterior motives correct.

    Hitler advocated the elimination of an entire race, religion, and ethnic group. NO ONE, NOT THE AMERICANS nor ANYONE ELSE, is attempting to wipe out an entire race. The only thing being wiped out are the terrorists and insurgants, and the people that the insurgants and terrorists fail to protect by staying away from them.

    Trust me, everyone, except for the terrorists and insurgants, want to play fair.

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    it's not an anti-patriotic act here either

    there are PLENTY of people who have and continue to speak out against it, hell, i'm one of them...

    I do believe however that the twists that are being put on the situation by the mass media are absolutely repulsive.
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    Sure theres no doubt that. German people gave him mandate, he didnt take it. Yes he was good leader, im not sayng good manager, but a damn good leader. Afterall he has followers even today... try to beat that. But what good did it for nation, the world... I would rather have president, whos not afraid to back up, when situation needs that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiredwrx
    Your joking, right?

    And what about the ****ed up comment about the Israelis. Let me guess, you are an Arab or Muslim? If not, you sound like one.
    Arab? Muslim? Eh???

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