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    Quote Originally Posted by justchat_1 View Post
    Actually very different....nComputing uses the host OS..just a separate user of the host os. Thats why resource usage is nice and low....where as vbox your using an entire separate OS for each user...big difference in resource usage.
    Yea, I remember seeing that when I was setting it up. I had 2 additional environments running on a cr@ppy single core ATOM based processor and 2GB of RAM with no slowdown at all.
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    The n computing stuff really is quite nice. I use concurrent RDP sessions from PC based clients all the time (also from my android phone, which is REALLY nice), and really like the things that allows you to do. That's basically all the n computing systems are as well - RDP thin clients. as such, they are every bit as fast as the console session, minus some hardware acceleration features. They would work quite well in a car environment, but would have to support the touchscreen, and of course, OM would have to be able to work across instances, and even across sessions.
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    Now I will say touchscreen does work, but only on the host PC. So say I plug it into N Computing station 1, it will install but when you touch the screen, it will instead control the host PC, rather then the N Computing station. Maybe a driver can be made to get around that?
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    And you posted this here why? Isn't there a Centrafuse sub-forum just for this kind of stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raygun View Post
    Thanx Reagan. i forgot all about it.

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    And you posted this here why? Isn't there a Centrafuse sub-forum just for this kind of stuff?

    http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/centrafuse/
    Because this thread is about OM and CF. He is simply letting the people in this post know what features CF will have. That way they can compare feature to feature between the two.
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    So should OM start posting links about its release information in the cetrafuse sub-forum or in the centrafuse forums on their site? I don't think that would go over too well. It would be different if this link were posted in their sub-forum first, but it wasn't and it made its debut here in the OM forum. CF has its own sub-forum (they may have forgotten about it, since its been soo long since they had something to say) and thats where links and information regarding upcoming releases and product updates should be posted first! Not in the OM forums.

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    I know this will be taken the wrong way, but you and justchat_1 have done similar things in other threads. This thread in particular comes to mind: What benefits does RR have over CF?

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    Not taking it the wrong way.

    I don't mind Raygun posting in the OM forum. He's likely the only person that can factually answer the questions raised from the CF side. I just don't think he should debut CF updates and product release information in the OM forum. Like I said, that would be the equivalent of OM announcing the 0.8 release in the CF forum here on MP3car, or on the CF website. It's just the wrong way to do it. Now if he had made the same post in the CF subforum, then came on here to say that he posted a 3.2 update in the CF forum, then thats different. It's the principle of the matter. You don't make product release announcements in other product's sub-forums.

    If you read that thread, at no point did I or justchat debut official OM announcements such as the above.

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    This post may seem to drag on a bit, but bear with me and it may make some sense by the end....

    I have spent a decent chunk of my 40+ years in the work place being an intermediary, in meetings mostly, between parties that did not interpret what was said into what was intended. This scenario happens quite a bit in forums. Many times a person talks of something with the subconscious assumption that the listener has the same perspective.

    In case I didn't make any sense, consider the scenario that a peer where I work was explaining to another what to do on the computer. What I noticed is he was say to "type h-t-t-p-:-/-/-w-w-w-.-g-o-o-g-l-e-.-c-o-m into the address bar". When he also said "click FILE then OPEN" the other person was totally confused. My peer's mistake was thinking everyone that uses the computer is familiar as he was. I'm sure the person on the other end was saying "I don't see no file or open" or "what's an address bar?".

    I have followed this thread, and the one linked to by Machinehead. What I find is the following misunderstanding:

    That CF and RR are crap, and OM is gods gift.

    HiJackZX1 is correct that OM is "not there yet" but only in the sense of what can be seen by the user right now. A whole heck of a lot of work has been done under the hood first due to learning what "could" have been done by the others. Justchat_1 and ws6vert have done a very good job in describing these capabilities, but others missed out on the interpretation of "what OM can do" versus "what you can see it do". And these guys have done some work on the other FEs in some form or another and have learned what to plan for ahead of time.

    And of course, others only see the lack of "eye candy" right now. They have not heard (read) that the fancy skins are pending, mostly due to the fact OM is still in beta. I don't think the comment (in that other thread) that give OM a couple of years to get all the features. Actually, almost all the features are there now. Again, you can't see it yet.

    Another part of the mis-understandings was a reference to sharing radio. I got the feeling that the one "listener" misunderstood that 2+ users could share HD Radio (or other). One person wanted more than one person to use the radio and the other explained that it was possible. But nowhere did I see any clarification that 2 users could not each listen to a seperate station at the same time. Now I may have the exact details wrong, but it illustrates what I am talking about.

    Those defending RR and CF are mis-led simply because of what they can "see" right now, not knowing what is going on under the hood.

    So I think the pi$$ing war got too far for the wrong reasons. And this IS just my observation. I am not intending to add fuel to the fire! Just thinking I could shed some light on what might be misunderstandings.

    I have played with them all, and I too could be described as unsatisifed by what I currently "see". But I have read almost everything and know what is going on in the background and agree that the core needs to be fine tuned before the flood of plugins and skins begins. And that the default skin was necessary to be able to interact with the core in the first place. I understand that from the coding I do at work myself (PHP). And really, OM is doing more for me in its unfinished state than I could get RR or CF to do for me, and with almost no setup at all, no AutoIT or DOS BATCH or other kludges or wedges.

    Keep up the good work guys. HiJackZX1 will choose OM after 1.0 (selfish wager that HiJackZX1 could force me to lose, but what the heck )

    PS: I agree the shameless plug for the CF release would have been better off in the CF forum. But probably just his/her way of letting off steam

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