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    Hey everyone, i was actually in on this type of project for a while as well and had been researching it thoroughly. My Axim X5 wouldn't take a certian DLL i had, so i was forced to pretty much wait till i got my hands on another pda, my x50 mid with built in wifi.

    Now i'm ready to rock, and my CF wifi card now can go into my laptop . I don't know if you read the reviews, but my x5 WAS my carputer for a while. It works decently enough.

    TO use the PDA as a remote display, like one of those Viewsonic Airpanel tablets, its best to have wifi. BT is just too slow and was meant to be a calbe replacement for USB and stuff, not like wifi which was meant to do networks (but you know that). I'm sure that maybe we could do a netmeeting type deal, like back in the day they had where you could generally control a desktop over 56K, but wtih todays graphics, and the possibility of desiring movie playback off the carputer, there's a good chance that you may opt for wifi. Wifi makes hard mapping a bit better to handle than BT, esp with the vidoes.

    to help you out if you need, it,

    http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showp...72&postcount=3

    that's where i'm resatrting my search (new software usualy...usually means better functionality.
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    re read your theard...i'm slightly conused...you want a remote desktop AND a simpplified control center for the desktop?
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    that was the idea. I now have a touch screen and fabbing it... slowly, for my car!

    I moved away from moving a pocketpc screen as it's the maintainance times that will get me down. Perhaps when I'm a carputer veteran, and have a super stable setup with little maintainace requirements, and some new slim VGA pocketpc phones are out, I may change my mind, but for now an 8" screen is installed!

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    Hehe, this is why i have an IBM as my carputer (recently upgraded it from a transnote to an R51). Seriously, i'd reconsider it or have a VGA screen non touch as a back up. On my desktop, Remote Desktop over the intranet has been nothing but FABULOUS! My only gripe is that my PPC is QVGA (x50), not VGA (x50v), but i'm alreayd in the process of selling it for a VGA upgrade of the model. After that, i shoudl be more that set. Native support and a filling screen, sure its back in the days of the mid 90's in resolution and colors, but it is a wireless tablet that can be used as a standable device.

    With some very light googling, I've found a site with a great tutorial on remote desktop on both infrasturcture and ad hoc (which is perfect for the car)

    http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.or...eshooting.html

    Also, there's VNC and a few others that allow for better streaming of video. Ofcourse, you dont' want to strea video to your PPC, that's too small and slightly ridculous as the tramerate woudl drop tremendously, but you have you MUCH cheaper 7" NON touch screen right there. You can then control the player functions with a seperate program from the axim and just watch regularly on the screen, like a remote control.

    ITs crazy what's built into these things and the untapped possibilities it has. People get excited over the smallest things that's highly useful to them, like a TV remote control program for your pocket pc was the clinched for the trade i just made. The only thing about the Pocket PC si that you ahve to remember to carry it with you or have a redundant built in system, which you should anyways. And the 3m guy even said the touch screens were' using is crap compared to the echnology available today (ie-transflective). I'll post pics of it in a little while.
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    u know what, you can steram video/audio using a media streaming server of some kind. that way you'll get a very decent framerate.

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    Yea, or just share the files/folders over a network and then map them on the pocket pc unit. Originally was going to try and do it that way --> just put laptop in car w/ all the media, and use my PDA to connect to it over network and play the media from there. But my PDA is a little older (HP iPaq 2215) and I've always had problems with it on networks, sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, bluetooth sometimes times out, etc.... So decided to save myself the frustruation and make a dedicated carPC and just use the PDA for personal organizer, mp3 player, and use to get on internet or check mail through my cell when I don't have my laptop.

    Since I've got the carPC going good now I think I might try and find a neat way to use it as a remote for passengers when in the car with one of those media control programs.
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    Think out of the box for a minute here, and consider what the real capabilities can be. AIVMS features an optional software package called AIVMS PPC Remote, that provides complete control of the AIVMS artificial intelligence using any pocket PC. It connects via TCP/IP, and can control AIVMS from anywhere in the world if the Pocket PC is connected to the Internet. You can also use Bluetooth or a USB sync cable/cradle to control your AIVMS equipped car-pc with a Pocket PC, since Active Sync will provide a TCP connection to your system. Here is a screen shot page showing the home automation capabilities of an AIVMS system being controlled remotely by a pocket PC.
    AIVMS can perform just about any task on a computer that a human can do, and since a Pocket PC with the PPC Remote software can control AIVMS, it instantly becomes a very powerful little device.

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    @ sama...but streaming framerates suck (i've done that). Also, fi you share a drive, you can map the drive using Resco FIle Explorer. But the biggest problem with doing this, and the msot attractive feautre of Mechanic's softwares, is that the sound plays on the computer itself; it doesn't in Remote desktop, though that can be hopefully changed.

    Right now, i'm still messing with the possibilities of remote desktop. So far i've been very happy wth the results. My next test is to see if i can remotely access one desktop and then, from there, remotely access another one. Why? Because most likely, with the PPC or the desktop, i'll want to access my home desktop. This is also why i want a secondary screen and input system: it gives me the choice to have better control over the laptop and the remote desktops

    @ Mechanic, that's really interesting software. However, it uses skype...would skype work on an adhoc system? If it doesn, then we'd need all the time internet access to do what we're doing. Ofcourse, i did read thought he page, but lately i've been known to miss stuff. Please let me know.

    All in all, as feature full as it may be (when i get my own house, i'll be using that), i'm not sure if tit has some fo the features needed (i'll go into that when i have time, still a damn fine program though). I really want to try it, iit a free download (doesn't look like it will be)
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    You should consider one important aspect of a car-pc; when you are driving, you cannot easily manipulate the typical Pocket PC remote access software since the screen elements are extremely small. This is the reason we use those large rather plain buttons in our PPC remote control software. Not only are they easy to see, they are large enough to permit manipulation using a finger touch; they do not require using a stylus where smaller elements would. Additional "user defined" buttons can even execute macros based on recorded user activities.

    Skype does require at least a semi-stable connection to the Internet in order for it to "fully" function. Such things as text chat messages sent while the client is offline are stored and transmitted to the client once an Internet connection has been established. It is not a substitute for a cell phone, but it offers features that a typical cell phone would not such as video phone and conference call hosting. A mobile video phone presented on even a 7" screen is actually more impressive than it sounds.

    We do base most of our software development around our hardware, the VN1 Server, which has persistent Internet connection options (EV-DO, EDGE, 1x-rtt, etc), and serves this connection out over its WiFi access point. It offers fall back to an available WiFi internet connection, which it can also serve out to other authorized users in the local vacinity.

    You can download both AIVMS and the PPC remote software directly from our website.

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    @Genesisfactor: In remote desktop you can get the remote desktop's sound to play locally.... When you bring up the connection thing, just hit "Options", then go to the "Local Resources" tab and under sound you can choose "Bring to this computer".

    I haven't used it in a while but I though that it dropped the quality of the audio a good bit, don't think it streamed at "normal" quality.... but that could depend on what settings you have in remote desktop or if you're connecting over a LAN or internet....
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